12款EL34的比较 [复制链接]

科研级旗舰 在 2005-4-1 22:44:31 发表的内容 EI是好管！kenbeyond怎么没搞到匈牙利TONGSRAM的EL34，声音也是非常平衡的！

替你修正一下, 應該是TANGSRAM

kenbeyond 在 2005-4-3 0:16:30 发表的内容 老兄贴的这几个EL34都是可遇不可求的极品啊！！！ 可否说说具体声音的表现？

楼主客气了, 各位有兴趣我便隨便说说吧.  几款铁箍都是同厂, 按理声底应該一样, 但很奇怪表現却很參差, 当中较满意的只有TESLA, 原因也没有深究了.
图中表現最突出的是TFK和GEC KT77.  TFK要留意必須是双圈的, 否则是后期东德产品. 一用上TFK, 就好像近視眼配了合适的眼镜, 可惜声底始终是传统的德国派, 欠缺了音乐味.  GEC雖没有TFK般「嚴肅」地表演, 但音色却更悠揚悦耳, 质感依然強烈.
要数极品的EL34, 非旧裝啡脚金獅KT77莫屬, 它就是从GEC KT77中百中选一地挑出来的.  要评它高音怎样低音如何并无意义, 用过便知道！
可能以上简单的几句说不到各位想听的！ 但当评普通胆说它厚润, 评名胆也是说它厚润, 怎分辨呢?  用这个比较便清楚点了, 一般较容易找到的名胆MULLARD双圈EL34, 都不是上面几款的级数！
用上了靚胆, 一般都不能自拔, 直到胆管壽终正寝, 除非能遇上更合适的靚胆！

科研级旗舰 在 2005-4-3 14:35:39 发表的内容 GEC KT77据说又复活了？美国一家厂在做

那不是GEC, 是頗有名气的GE 6CA7, 因其为以前馬8及9的跟机胆而有名, 現由GROOVE TUBES再产. 我有四支全新連原裝盒全配对的, 可有兴趣?

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我买的管子

贵就不说它了，
难买又难选，
不像场效应、三级管，我可以在几百对里挑
哎，什么时候我才移情别恋啊！？

请看不过眼兄谈谈你的胆管的特性？

好帖，受益良多．期待说说小管．

没兴趣

看来你中文不行，英文也实在不怎么样，还替别人修正下，哈哈哈，笑死我了

hongkong 在 2005-4-3 0:50:32 发表的内容 科研级旗舰 在 2005-4-1 22:44:31 发表的内容 EI是好管！kenbeyond怎么没搞到匈牙利TONGSRAM的EL34，声音也是非常平衡的！ 替你修正一下, 應該是TANGSRAM

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看不过眼 在 2005-4-3 16:39:55 发表的内容 科研级旗舰 在 2005-4-3 14:35:39 发表的内容 GEC KT77据说又复活了？美国一家厂在做 那不是GEC, 是頗有名气的GE 6CA7, 因其为以前馬8及9的跟机胆而有名, 現由GROOVE TUBES再产. 我有四支全新連原裝盒全配对的, 可有兴趣?

看不过眼兄, 是否有8支?

科研级旗舰 在 2005-4-3 13:50:22 发表的内容 hongkong 在 2005-4-3 0:50:32 发表的内容 科研级旗舰 在 2005-4-1 22:44:31 发表的内容 EI是好管！kenbeyond怎么没搞到匈牙利TONGSRAM的EL34，声音也是非常平衡的！ 替你修正一下, 應該是TANGSRAM 还是错了，应该是TUNGSRAM 这是性价比很高的好管，只是现在也不太好找了 [em11]

OMG. 我也記錯了.

kenbeyond 在 2005-4-3 23:10:39 发表的内容 看不过眼 在 2005-4-3 16:39:55 发表的内容 科研级旗舰 在 2005-4-3 14:35:39 发表的内容 GEC KT77据说又复活了？美国一家厂在做 那不是GEC, 是頗有名气的GE 6CA7, 因其为以前馬8及9的跟机胆而有名, 現由GROOVE TUBES再产. 我有四支全新連原裝盒全配对的, 可有兴趣? 看不过眼兄, 是否有8支?

兄，

我只有4支，我朋友也有4支都是全新全配对的！ 今晚上图給你看.

kenbeyond 在 2005-4-1 21:50:41 发表的内容 4, JJ蓝玻璃EL34 捷克JJ的EL34有几种,白玻璃,红玻璃和蓝玻璃,因为我手上只有蓝玻璃的这种,但据说蓝玻璃的声音最好,特别是动态和声音密度方面都比白玻璃和红玻璃要好一点.价格大概150-170元一个，捷克JJ的EL34声音非常活跃,音乐感比较强烈,声音密度高.中频和低频的表现非常不错,高频非常顺滑,整体有点像Amperex管子的风格.但高频的表现有点灰暗,延伸稍稍差了一点,但如果是用HD600听就觉得高频一点都不觉得灰暗,反而多了一份高贵的感觉. 如果这个管在单端甲类的电路上高频就表现的更加灰暗. [upload=jpg]Upload/20054121491747688.jpg[/upload] 5, Ei  EL34 这个是南斯拉夫EI厂70-80年代做的EL34，她的外形比较特别，顶部就像小九脚管那样有个尖尖的顶部。价格大概110-130元，整体表现非常平衡,感觉声音稍为有点慢,声音比较细腻高贵,音乐感不错,但低频控制稍有点拖尾,声场也比JJ的稍微差一点。 [upload=jpg]Upload/20054121495930560.jpg[/upload] 6, Ei  6CA7 这个也是南斯拉夫EI厂70-80年代做的6CA7，外形跟EI的EL34一样，有个尖尖的顶部，但身材要比EL34粗壮好多。价格大概170-190元，速度快,动态和声场和音乐都不错,低频下潜得很深,中频厚实,人声非常柔和甜美 ,这个6CA7总体的表现是非常不错的, 个人认为美中不足的是高频的线条不够幼细,缺少那种凝聚的感觉,但EI的这个6CA7测试参数相差甚大, 我买这套管的时候测了好多管在能选到4个参数接近的, 同一批的管子,参数相差非常大,也比较难找到4个相近的,所以购买的时候最好是不要购买没测试过或者二手的, 还是到有信用的JS去测试配对购买好些. [upload=jpg]Upload/20054121503885206.jpg[/upload]

陈兄还是觉的6ca7好听，高频去的尽。但最好还是猫那，那种味挥去不尽啊

看不过眼 在 2005-4-2 21:55:38 发表的内容 [upload=jpg]Upload/20054221431412788.jpg[/upload] [upload=jpg]Upload/2005422149410381.jpg[/upload]

能否转点《4只》

美国GE 6CA7, 音色豪迈！
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GE 的6CA7 不如JJ蓝。

谢谢！原来这样，看来我首先要了解自己的机器（线路特点）才能更好地对症下药！