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俺的301开声了也。。。。159楼新上漂亮底座 [复制链接]

61#

原帖由 ADWS 于 2014-3-11 13:36:00 发表
无难兄为何把L75给出了?不妨从这3个盘的声音特点做一个全面细致的对比,也好给准备入手烧友一个参考,一家之言,个人感官,也不存在误导,不妨直说哈
我已经说完了呀,基本就这么回事,国外也有类似的对比帖子,大家认识也大致差不多
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62#

媚俗也好!媚俗也不好!
就媚俗兄这句
针对不同软件来比较确实是件非常复杂而巨大的工程
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63#

回复 61# 无难 的帖子

力高L78我也搞了台,等301到了后,我来直接来个PK。
最后编辑ADWS 最后编辑于 2014-03-12 17:27:37
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64#






我的301也收到了
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65#










401也收到了,真新啊,明天就发给浙江烧友
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66#

原帖由 ADWS 于 2014-3-12 17:20:00 发表

我的301也收到了
够折腾一阵子的老,迪卡唱头到了没有?到了来试听一下
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67#

原帖由 无难 于 2014-3-12 17:35:00 发表
原帖由 ADWS 于 2014-3-12 17:20:00 发表

我的301也收到了
够折腾一阵子的老,迪卡唱头到了没有?到了来试听一下

这个迪卡唱头好像有点问题,没有唱头壳,4个接线柱也没有,询问了卖家一直没有答复。
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68#

给懂这个唱头的人看看,感觉没有壳、接线柱






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69#

原帖由 ADWS 于 2014-3-12 17:45:00 发表
给懂这个唱头的人看看,感觉没有壳、接线柱

decca的唱头基本都是配他家的唱臂来的,如果没有唱臂就要单独买转换头


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70#

回复 69# 无难 的帖子

原来是这样,看样子,这个唱头也不需要唱头架了
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71#

网上找到的接线示意图
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72#

玩301要玩好震动。
天下武功,唯快不破
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73#

玩301、401、124的老外一般都配的舒尔垃圾MM头,简直是暴殄天物。
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74#

A兄轮驱开声了吗?
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75#

回复 74# Real 的帖子

没有,唱臂还没到
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76#

舒尔不是垃圾MM头
正如莲12无Lp系统可打它找牙
出现上述结论,是自身认识,自身能力,驾驭不好黑胶系统•••••••••
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77#

舒尔是比较好的MM头,在配套合适(调试良好)的LP系统,应可出不错的声音,它是可发出正确声音的,它和高档的唱头的差距是:音质、频宽、动态、分析力、精细(准)度...............
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78#

今天把转轴拆下来清洗了一下,看了看结构,有点困惑,这接触点怎么就是平面接触呢,和其他转盘的点接触不一样,有什么深意吗?又上网搜了搜,果然这样想的不是俺一个人,第五图就是网上的升级套件,有木有同学用过?








网上的升级套件


下面是引用的一些介绍和网评
EXACT AUDIO XTP301 UPGRADE THRUST PAD WITH PHOSPHOR BRONZE BALL BEARING for GARRARD 301.
BY POPULAR REQUEST, NOW WITH TWO PAPER GASKETS. The critical dimensions are the same as the originals.

The listing is for one thrust pad, 2 extra balls and 2 gaskets.
No spindle damage will be caused by XTP301 unless already
compromised by another product or previous modification.




This is second one. I noticed that it is much better than Kokomo Kit MkII.
Hiromichi, Japan

Superb, best upgrade ever
(401),
much better than the Kokomo, top seller and service
Joanne, Australia

PERFECT FIT - GOOD UPGRADE - PLATTER SEEMS TO ROTATE ENDLESS..(401)
Dirk, Germany


This is an excellent upgrade to the 301. Very happy indeed.
Stanley, UK








Wonderful. The rumble on my 301 is now inaudible. Excellent inexpensive upgrade
Mark, Canada

EXCELLENT ITEM,MANY THANKS.
Wittaya, Thailand

Glad to have got it. Working great.
Ken, Singapore
Great seller! Every thing was perfect - thanks!!
Chris, Canada

Reliable description, fast shipping, fully satisfying. Recommended.
Oddgeir, Iceland

Big improvement with little money thx so much
Jim, Australia

Well chuffed, easy to fit + very low friction bearing + there sound improvement.
Dianne, UK

Everything perfect
Fernando, Spain

I'm normally sceptical about such upgrades but this did blow my mind.
(401)
Mark, UK

Simply the best you can do for your garrard !!!!
Holger, Germany

Perfect Garrard Bearing, Better than description, Glad to deal with jclovesmusic.
Giselle, Argentina

The improvement deserves 100GBP to buy it! All Garrard 301 lovers no miss it!!
CL, Taiwan

If you have a 301 you should try this! a massive improvement!
Alan, UK

Simple kit with stunning effect - my 301 loves it.
Stefan, Germany

Highly recommended - my best 301 Tweak so far!!
Jay, Canada

Very cost effective upgrade,it made my 301 reveal more of the illusion of music.
Theresa, Canada

Best and cheapest upgrade for garrard 301. Highly recommended.

By email: Just received yesterday, fitted it in, and, beautiful. Cheapest and well-worth upgrade.

Resti, Australia.

Perfect in every respect - The (301) bearing sounds superb

Matthew, UK

Fantastic product with wider sound stage.
Kok Kai, Hong Kong


PRICES in GBP INC. P&P AND VAT WHERE APPROPRIATE

UK 26.28 inc. VAT

EU 26.98 inc. VAT

Export Europe 22.98.
Refund 3.30.
Rest of the World 23.48.
Refund 2.80.

REFUND (VAT minus additional postage) will be refunded through Paypal.
Do remember that you are liable for import duty and local VAT or other taxes.




The XGG gasket ensures your bearing does not leak (as it might with a felt one). It is 0.5mm thick as per the original part.
Due to popular request, two gaskets are now supplied, and additional spare ones are available, please contact me.
I have had trouble listing XGG separately, the trademark owner keeps objecting to ebay who then pull the listing without discussion,
even though it is just a pattern part.

In the photo, just below the bearing is the new thrust pad with ball. On the right is the bottom view showing a through hole to
assist in removing the ball for replacement. The balls are a snug fit in a recess. The thrust pads are usually white, though I
reserve the right to supply them in black depending on availability.

Towards the left, the picture shows the flat Garrard thrust pad from a 301 (oil version, loaned to me for measurement).
Forty years later, you can see a marks on the flat phosphor bronze thrust face, where the edge of the spindle has ground away.
This is not unexpected and is how it should be. The much smaller contact area of the new thrust ball will reduce noise and friction.
301s and early 401s with flat thrust pads will particularly benefit from this upgrade.

Good design has been practiced - where one bearing surface is hard, the other softer to optimise wear and maintenance.
It is not rocket science to see that it is cheaper to replace the ball rather than induce wear on the spindle.
Phosphor bronze is used as a bearing material because of its toughness, strength, low coefficient of friction, and fine grain.
The pad itself is non metallic, and reduces the transmission of noise from the bearing's thrust face.

Beware! Ultra hard thrust balls, like ceramic or jewel balls will grind into the spindle and cause greater wear on the thrust face.
There might be an apparent sonic improvement at first, but I suspect that will be negated by potential damage to the spindle. To quote
from a thread about spindle wear on pinkfishmedia.net, "the words 'soft' and 'ceramic' are a contradiction. I cannot agree more, having
done some work with high alumina ceramics in the past. I have also had contact with  customer who had his spindle repolished.

Warning
- Garrard spindles are surface hardened (to HRC55?). Polish the thrust face too much and you are left with the softer core
which will be even more susceptible to damage.

Perhaps the warning above is now redundant because of a recent Mk.2 version of a rival product.
Each phosphor bronze ball should last several years, depending on use. When slightly worn, replace with the second ball.
If you feel up to it, try rotating the ball to present a fresh face to the spindle and get even more use. Extra balls are available.

URGENT! PLEASE READ BEFORE BUYING.

The pads' minimum dimensions are
Ø16.5 X 6.7mm high. I expect most buyers to "fit and play". If in doubt, please check your Garrard part first.
When measuring, please bear in mind that the Garrard part has a recessed thrust face - the new pad looks shallower, but the critical dimensions
are the same. So far there have only been very few problems. In both cases, the Garrard parts are different from the majority.






Some feedback - also see feedback for the 401 thrust pad which is similar:

Quickly shipment, a recommend seller.
Shen Ming, Taiwan

Excellent product and fast shipping. Thank you
Clive, UK

Item was very well packed in an envelope .Great, honest seller.Thanks
Walter, Singapore

Very good no proplems will use again
John, UK
Smooth transaction, packed well, quick shipment. Thank you.this product is good
Takashi, Japan


Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tin Fu, Hong Kong
Very quick response and the item was excellent for Garrard 301/401 users.
Hiromichi, Japan
Superfast shipment, good item! Thanks from Germany
Oliver, Germany
Great little tweak that works a treat! Thanks!
Gary, UK

Great ebayer good communication great product- thanks
Jamie, UK

Perfect

Wilhelm, Austria
A perfect product from jc
Eric, Belgium

Made it to the other side of the world very quickly. Easy to fit. Less rumble!
Brian, New Zealand

A Definite Sonic Improvement, 36 Hour Turnaround, 100% Trustworthy Ebayer.
John, UK

Best ebay experience I've had, incredible service and superb product (XTP401).
Rob, UK

Excellent product. Perfect communication. Highly recommended. Thanks heaps!
David, Australia
Very effective device from this professional seller.Ultra fast delivery!!!
David, UK

Excellent, thank you!
Alex, Canada
Beaucoup de serieux.
Marc, France
Very Good.
Hoi On, Hong Kong

Excellent transaction, super fast delivery. Recommended.

Joan, Spain.
Serio venditore,il kit funziona bene, lo consiglio,grazie jc alla prossima
Giancarlo, Italy
Very honest seller~~!! Good item! Great seller~~!! Next again~!
Choi, S. Korea
PERFECT Fast transaction and very useful device.
Giancarlo, Italy

Excellent speed well made and packed
Michael, UK


Thanks - prompt delivery and nice item.
Robin, Hong Kong
Great product
Billy, USA
Great service, item looks good, very pleased with the transaction. Recommended.
Heinz-Peter, Germany
Quick delivery very satisfied.
Walter, UK
Excellent! Very smooth transaction.
Kensuke, Japan


http://wduk.worldomain.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4907&page=2
Richard, UK

Truly outstanding value, a must for garrard (401) owners, highly recommended.
Paul, UK
Fantastic product (401)for the price Will definetly improve sound quality!!!
Tim, UK
Perfect in every respect - The bearing sounds superb

Matthew, UK
Nice item for a garrard 401; it fit well , with the correct tolerance!
Stephane, Canada

"The results are a revelation! The bass now jumps out from the mix like it never has

before and the whole sound is even more real and focused than it was...

I have spent the whole evening listening to my favorite records

and have a big smile on my face. I have always considered the

401 as a vastly underrated turntable.

I have just been listening to Miles Davis "Kind of Blue" (an album I

listen to on at least a weekly basis) and the improvement is

stunning"!
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79#

没拆过,同样求学习。
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80#

哈哈,偶也刚海淘了一个升级配件,还没有到手。
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