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头版CD之我见 [复制链接]

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以现在的科技,国外唱片公司要再版超过首版并不困难,关键是他们愿不愿意做,中国和外国的市场不一样,可能外国人不在乎首版再版的.他们买张我们要寻多年不着最后要上网跪求的唱片就象买瓶饮料一样简单.很多五六十年代的头版黑胶也只要三四十美圆,八九十年代的CD更是不值钱.只有在中国这个极度饥渴极度畸形的音像市场里才总是有这样的争论.花过多的时间精力关注首版没什么意义.
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听摇滚的人都知道,滚石乐队六十年代在DECCA公司的六张经典专辑头版CD音质之差让全世界都震惊.前年DSD再版后大家都把头版当垃圾扔掉去买再版.
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真正有价值的头版是极少数的.平克的月缺,甲壳虫阿比路只是一颗大茶树的嫩尖而已.大部分CD头版仍是无人问津的.你们换个角度想想,全球每天有几千个新品种的CD上柜销售,每个品种印数少则几千,多则几百万(大牌流行艺人),这可都是头版啊.你全都要买吗?
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QZ1) Are the new Stones discs a big and NOTICABLE improvement over the old
ABKCO discs in sound quality?

AZ1) In general, yes, to a fairly large degree.

QZ2) What are the most improved titles in the new reissue series (over the old
ABKCOs)?

AZ2) They are:

*12x5 - Fully half of the album is now stereo - previously it was completely mono.

*Aftermath UK - A big improvement over the old ABKCO CD, although some feel it's
still not quite up to the level of the old London CD.

Between the Buttons US/UK - No more narrow stereo, and great sound on the balance,
although there are a few issues with this disc. Still an amazing upgrade over one of the
worst old-ABKCO discs.

Beggar's Banquet - By far the biggest upgrade in sound. It is far clearer than the old CDs,
with less hiss, and it even runs at the correct speed for the first time.
你推荐的文章太长,随便引了段,是说明再版胜出的结论.
另外,ALLMUSIC那段里提到的 Richards' revved-up acoustic guitar on "Street Fighting Man" 里的Richard当然是滚石吉他手Keith Richard了.不好意思我只引了一段一般人很难看出来.你知道他们为什么做这个研究吗?因为CD版太差了,不管是头版,普通版,还是金版.
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Raxel 在 2006-3-16 13:57:52 发表的内容
wyfatpig 在 2006-3-16 13:50:50 发表的内容
哈哈,实际上我就是想表达一下我个人对头版和再版的一个真实意见.
我本人对那些唯头版论的观点是完全不赞同的!


的确没错,但单就Rolling Stones头6张专辑而言,SACD并没有胜过Decca头版CD,所以其实这是一个首版好的例子.只是前面朋友说Decca头版CD音质太差,可以当垃圾扔掉,这个我不同意而已.只要你是真正首版,不是什么中间的再版,扔给我就可以了,我拿SACD原封的和你一张换一张.





[The Rolling Stones' London/ABKCO catalog was reissued in August of 2002, packaged in digipacks with restored album artwork, remastered, and released as hybrid discs that contain both CD and Super Audio CD layers. The remastering — performed with Direct Stream Digital (DSD) encoding — is a drastic improvement, leaping out of the speaker yet still sounding like the original albums. This is noticeable on the standard CD layer but is considerably more pronounced on the SACD layer, which is shockingly realistic in its detail and presence yet is still faithful to the original mixes; Richards' revved-up acoustic guitar on "Street Fighting Man" still sends the machine into overdrive, for instance. It just sounds like he's in the room with you. Even if you've never considered yourself an audiophile, have never heard the differences between standard and gold-plated CDs, you will hear the difference with SACD, even on a cheap stereo system without a high-end amplifier or speakers. And you won't just hear the difference, you'll be an instant convert and wish, hope, and pray that other artists whose catalog hasn't been reissued since the early days of CD — Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, especially the Beatles — are given the same treatment in the very near future. SACD and DSD are that good.]
权威的allmusic网站在滚石早期专辑评论后特别指出DSD再版全面胜过标准版和镀金版CD.
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请问第一张唱片的名称?
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我知道没金碟版,开开玩笑.但ABKCO的头版CD1986年就上市了,难到LONDON版还要早?如果ABKCO上得早,LONDON版不就是再版了吗?你那张LONDON版标的是那年出版的?
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84年的CD?佩服佩服.我手上一堆ABKCO的CD封面确实是有红条子,最早是86年出版的.你贴的LONDON版我从来没见过,因为这张专辑我也有,但封面上是有THE ROLLING STONES的字样的.你推荐的两个帖子我昨晚粗粗看了下,确实长见识.可不可以问一下你是哪里买到84年的CD的?84年的时候我才刚刚换下开裆裤呢.
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