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Naim的202/200推ATC35,听苏格兰人说很不错。
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[quote]zzz 在 2005-10-13 0:28:27 发表的内容
再问个小问题:202和250可以配对吗?DIN接口是否一致?[/quote]

接口没有问题,但不符合Naim的理念,不会是协调的声音。而且250无法给前级供电,还要破费去买一台HiCap。

这问题应该到Naim论坛里提,呵呵!
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[quote]zzz 在 2005-10-13 0:23:18 发表的内容
喔!那就对了,35也不过区区85db的效率,看来70W的200还是功力非凡呀!看来我的12有戏.....
谢谢各位了,这几日多有劳烦。特别是Naim兄。
抽空我会去听听实际效果,包括112+2个50W的150合推,对比202+200,恩,肯定有意思。
再次感谢诸位![/quote]

不对的!ATC应该是箱子越小越难推。200推ATC35并不是轻松的,老外比较过200推35和推Neat Elite,一比较就觉得推35不轻松,推Neat音乐有一种很“自由”的感觉。不过味道是ATC好,英国人喜欢的味道。
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[quote]爱hifi 在 2005-10-13 21:32:52 发表的内容
谁能送上ATC产品的各种型号资料,最好能有图片.
期待中...[/quote]

去ATC厂方网站 www.atc.gb.net 查吧,一应俱全。
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最近看了一位苏格兰爱丁堡的人为他的CDX2/202/200挑选音箱的记录,可做参考,当然其中包含苏格兰人个人的口味倾向。
试听对象有一堆:ProAC D15,Spendor S8e和S9e,Harbeth 7ES,Sonus Faber Auditors,ELAC,PMC OB1,Living Voice Auditoriums,Living Voice Avatar-II,Neat Mystique,Neat Elites SE,ATC SCM35,Martin-Logan Clarity,Wilson Benesch ARC。
听了有几周时间,入围最后一轮搏杀的是ATC35(1999英镑,85db,8欧)和Living Voice Avatar-II(3000英镑,94db,6欧),又对比听了一周,说在两者间作出选择真的不容易,最后非常艰难的选择了Living Voice,但对202/200推ATC35也给出了十分肯定的评价。只是小音量下ATC的细节衰减很大。

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ok 24hrs in and I've given the ATC SCM35 a good listen since getting in from work. I like them a lot.

Beautiful detail, tight bass all the notes in the right places ( or should I say at the right times). They really shook the place with 'The Real Me' off Quadraphenia by The Who (Keith Moon's drumming on that track is amazing but that's another story...). And the rain at the beginning made me think we'd sprung a leak! The sock is officially off!

I can't detect any problem with the 200 driving them (at least not at the levels I listen at - between 8 & 9pm with CDs). They sound plenty loud but then again I'm not a punk any more.

The good thing for me is that I think I could easily buy and enjoy these speakers even if nothing else I look at in the coming weeks does the business - or I do my back in lifting cabinets The ATCs are 4X HEAVY.

The Neat Mystiques are back in for now but sound thin in comparison ( quelle surprise) but definitely very musical. I still intend to try and get hold of a pair of Neat Elite SE's but I suspect the bass extension of the ATCs will win the day there.

I am surprised to hear the 200 is coping with the 35. That's cool.
If nothing emerges from all that,  I could happily live with the ATC's.

The ATC's do like to be a little louder than the Living Voice Avatars but not overly so. To my ears they sound v. good at a normal 'listening' level (9'oclock on a 202/200), but do constrict a little earlier as you reduce the volume towards a 'background' mode. Not so much as to be a big factor in our decision but if you listen a lot at rather low levels you might feel differently.

The choice between the ATC SCM35 and the Avatars has not been an easy one. These are both great loudspeakers. The Avatars have a delicacy of presentation which is beguiling, sound good at low volume, and look very elegant. The ATCs can rock it up, play all kind of music in a convincing way and have great low end grunt. On the down side they need a bit more volume to come to life.

In the end the balance came out in favour of the Avatars but only by a whisker

最后喜好的天平虽然倾向了Living Voice,但只是有胡须般微弱的优势。
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[quote]桃花岛主一世 在 2005-10-15 15:09:45 发表的内容
living voice avatars胜在小音量下表现好及外观优雅,atc播任何音乐都令人信服且失真更低?[/quote]

有个人口味的因素,喇叭这东西一定要自己听过。
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[quote]飞翔的翅膀 在 2005-10-16 10:19:28 发表的内容
昨天听了ATC的 20S和 50,
声音真的让我很失望,
可能是不合我的口味,
倒是瑞宝的一对银参考不错,
声音大气开扬,
闭上眼睛还以为是对落地箱在歌唱。[/quote]

用什么推的?
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[quote]飞翔的翅膀 在 2005-10-17 13:05:22 发表的内容
但是音场确实比书架箱开阔的多(与ATC 20S比较),
就是价格太贵了,
连脚架一套要三万,
如果两万以内一定拿下。[/quote]

ATC50?!才三万?!岂不买到赚到?
被动式ATC50最便宜的报价5527英镑,主动式最便宜的要7431英镑。
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[quote]笑乐 在 2005-11-6 9:40:14 发表的内容
ATC同仁们:看看我们的论坛在器材专区的排行都跌落到什么地步了?赶快行动起来吧。楼上的先生,
我刚买回了ATC SCM--35    +    Krell   400xi , 音源仍然用的是马兰士平价机。开声后,细节丰富,声音饱满,定位准确,我十分满意,现在感觉高音不通透,低音量感十足,但是质感不够。还好,现在还没有买线材和cd机,楼上的先生,我应该买什么cd机,线材?英国之宝G08 怎么样?
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笑乐,

照你这样灌水,ATC论坛的素质只会下降,排名有意义吗?
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ATC35对前端器材的反应还是比较敏感的。中音单元完美而且利用充分,高低略欠。
有朋友说与真正的落地箱比,表现像大型书架箱。他的表现需要房间的反射和混响来补充。
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