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刚想买个炮,还好没买。觉得中国市场好可怕,都不知道信谁。
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谢谢您的电邮。我很抱歉到现在才能回复您,因为我收到了数百封来自世界各地的电邮。

我曾尝试从我们的中国分销商Miro Sound的张先生(Tony Cheung)取得多一些资料,但他未能提供我所需的资料给我。我要从Miro Sound的张先生(Tony)取得更多诚实的资料,才能答覆你所有提问。

1. 您所说在中国的一般代理,您是指那间公司呢 ?是指Miro Sound 吗?

所有高光泽的MP-150 都是伪造的。150系列产品(MP-150, S-150, SS-150, MX-150, MX-350) 均不会被允许在美国M&K 工厂以外的地方生产!任何不在美国 M&K 生产的150 系列产品都是伪造的。

我们以前曾在美国制造了很多的MP6 声箱,卖给中国的Miro Sound/Wiscon 。这些声箱外壳均不是高光泽,外壳只有哑光油漆及膠板面的。

我们曾计劃於2006 年8 月在中国(不在美国)制造600 个高光泽并且有三种颜色(黑,银,白或红)的MP6 。我们特地从美国寄出600 个已通过美国M&K测试的驱动单元到中国工厂,但是我们从来没有收到过在中国制造的MP6完成样品,供我们测试和批准,因此任何高光泽表面的MP6 均未被M&K 测试或者批准。除第一批600 件的MP6外 ,任何在中国制造的MP6 都是伪造的。

2. 在中国,我们唯一的声箱装配工厂是Everbright ,并且他们只制造和装配如下声箱 (K-Series, Xenon黑色高光泽, LCR750THX, VX1250THX, SS-550, SURT-55),其他所有的M&K产品都在美国由M&K 制造。

3. 直至2006 年4 月,LCR750THX均是在美国生产的。但於2006 年8 月,因为质量差劣的原因,我们停止装运中国(Everbright )制造的LCR750THX 扬声器。2006 年8 月以后任何从中国直接装运的LCR750THX 产品,均没有经过M&K 或THX 批准。一些在中国制造的LCR750THX 产品,可能完全是伪造品,不过我们需要来自Miro Sound 的更多信息。

期待能收到您更多的资料。
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转贴:信鬼老,好过信国人。悲哀!!!
Jimmy,

Here is an email I just sent to another customer in China which has some more explanation about the problem with LCR-750 MKII speakers make in China.

KEN KREISEL

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Jimmy
这是一封我刚刚发给另一位中国客户的邮件,里面有更多关于中国制造的LCR-750 MKII扬声器的解释。
Jason,

Thank you for your new email.
谢谢您最新的回复。

I am sorry to say that I think your 3 LCR-750's are counterfeit and/or unauthorized M&K product.  It is a little complicated so let me please explain:
很遗憾我认为您的3 个LCR-750是伪造的并且/或者是未认可的M&K产品。这有点复杂因此允许让我慢慢解释。

From the beginning we made the LCR-750THX  MKII speakers at our factory in the USA with all of M&K's famous quality control systems and special tests which are exactly the same procedure and people that test our top professional speakers used by the world's best studios like George Lucas' Skywalk Sound.
起初我们在美国工厂生产的LCR-750THX  MKII扬声器是运用M&K著名的质量控制系统以及专业测试,这些的确是同样的过程,以及测试使用在世界最好的工作室如George Lucas' Skywalk Sound的顶级专业扬声器的专业人员。

In April 2006 we started to make the LCR-750THX MKII speakers in China at the Everbright/ACI factory.  In April, under my instructions, I sent our head engineer to supervise production in China and to make sure these LCR-750 MKII speakers had top quality control and passed my M&K and THX tests and specifications.
2006年4月,我们开始在Everbright/ACI工厂制造LCR-750THX MKII speaker。4月,在我的指示下,我派我们的工程师去中国监督生产以确保这些LCR-750 MKII speakers 高质量生产并且通过我们M&K and THX的测试和规范。

After our engineer left China, Everbright/ACI continued to build LCR-750 speakers for shipping all over the world, including to China to Miro Sound, our China distributor.  Many LCR-750 speakers were shipped from China to the USA to sell in the USA.  For the USA market we would open and test, at the M&K USA factory, 100% of the China build speakers, including the LCR-750 speakers.  During the summer of 2006 we found that the LCR-750 quality was not up to M&K standards and about 30% of the LCR-750 speakers and other China made speakers failed M&K and THX tests and did not meet M&K specifications.  In September 2006 we decided all China made speakers and subwoofers must come to the USA first for testing and then M&K would ship them all over the world, including back to China.  This is the only way we could guaranty M&K quality.
我们的工程师离开中国后,Everbright/ACI继续制造LCR-750 speakers并运往世界各地,包括到中国,到Miro Sound,我们中国的经销商。许多LCR-750 speakers从中国运输到美国并且在美国销售。对于美国市场我们会开放并且检测,在美国M&K工厂,100%中国制造的speakers,包括LCR-750 speakers。2006年夏天,我们发现LCR-750质量不符合M&K标准并且大约30% LCR-750 speakers的以及其他中国制造的speakers没有通过M&K and THX测试,不符合M&K规范。2006年9月,我们决定将所有中国制造的扬声器以及亚低音扬声器首先运输到美国进行检测,然后M&K会运输到全世界,包括返回到中国。这是唯一我们能保证M&K质量的办法。

I must tell you that M&K quality standards are very high for even our least expensive speaker.  Our least expensive speaker is tested and must pass the same tests as our professional speakers.
我必须告诉您M&K质量标准非常高,即使是最便宜的扬声器。我们最便宜的扬声器必须进行检测并且必须通过如同我们的专业扬声器必须通过的测试。

Here is the problem:  After we decided to stop shipping M&K speakers directly from the Everbright/ACI factory due to bad quality, we now know that from September 2006 until today, there is LCR-750 speakers being shipped directly to Miro Sound from the Everbright/ACI factory which is not authorized or tested or sold by M&K.  We know that Miro Sound is buying these speakers directly from the Everbright/ACI factory probably at a reduced price.  I have no idea about the quality or performance of these speaker except that by our testing in the USA M&K factory, about 30% of the LCR-750's do not meet M&K and THX specs.  M&K does not receive any money from these counterfeit speakers.  We have been trying to stop the sale of these counterfeit speakers into China and the U.K. for many months.  M&K has lost a lot of money because of this, and it hurts M&K reputation around the world because of the poor quality.  We have seen these speakers with shorted crossover networks and out of phase drivers which means the speakers were never tested at all in China before sent to the dealer or customer.
这里有一个问题:在我们决定由于质量问题停止直接从Everbright/ACI工厂运输M&K扬声器后,现在我们知道从2006年9月到今天,有LCR-750 speakers从Everbright/ACI factory直接运输到Miro Sound,没有经过认可或测试,也不是由M&K提供的。我们知道Miro Sound很可能正以折扣价格从Everbright/ACI工厂直接购买这些扬声器。除了我们在美国M&K工厂测试的外我不了解这些扬声器的质量或者性能,大约30%的 LCR-750's不符合M&K and THX 规格。 M&K没有收过任何来自这些伪造扬声器的钱。我们几个月来一直试图组织这些伪造品在中国和美国的销售。 因为这个原因,M&K已经损失了很多钱,因为低劣的质量,M&K在全世界的名誉也受到破坏。我们发现这些扬声器较短的分频网络以及不协调的驱动,这些都意味着这些扬声器在卖给顾客以前在中国从来没有检验过。

Our Taiwan distributor Keep Running buys the LCR-750's directly from the M&K factory because they want only top quality M&K speakers properly tested and inspected by M&K USA.
我们台湾的经销商直接从M&K工厂购买LCR-750,因为他们想得到最优质质量的由美国M&K检测并且监督的扬声器。

It is possible that your LCR-750 speakers are OK, but there is about a 30% chance that they are not OK, based upon our past experience with LCR-750's built in China, but I cannot say what parts are in your speakers.
有可能您的LCR-750 speakers是正常的,但是也有30%的可能是伪造的,基于我们过去在中国制造的LCR-750的经验,但是我不能说出您的扬声器里的部件。

As you know, we just closed the M&K company completely.  Some of the reason we closed is due to lost money on unauthorized and counterfeit speakers.
正如您所知,我们完全关闭了M&K公司,我们关闭的一些原因是因为在未认可的伪造扬声器方面造成的损失。

Please look at this news article from Stereophile Magazine about M&K closing at http://www.stereophile.com/news/030507kreisel/ .
请看Stereophile杂志上关于M&K关闭的这则新闻。

I am sorry for this very long explanation.  I hope your LCR-750's are OK and that they are giving you good sound.
我很抱歉做了如此长的解释,我希望您的LCR-750是正常的并且给您完美的声音。

GOOD SOUND TO YOU..... ALWAYS,

KEN KREISEL
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刚看到mk给中国人注册了,又一个CAV.大家还是看定再考虑mk吧http://www.jdbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=1296573&extra=page%3D1
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