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MELODIYA Furtwangler之贝九(合唱)和贝三(英雄) [复制链接]

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看到淘宝上有三、四家在卖1998元/套,这个应该是2006年出版的,后面还有限量编号的。现在有出现崭新的套装,不是是否2012年压片重新再版?
16CD 曲目內容
  FURT 1001100 Brahms: Sym. No. 4 ; Variations on a theme by Haydn
  FURT 1001101 Pepping: Sym. No. 2/ H. Schubert: Hymnisches Konzert
  FURT 1001102 Beethoven: Sym.No. 6/ Werber: Freischutz Overture/ Ravel: Daphnis et Chloe
  FURT 1001103 Bruckner: Sym.No. 5
  FURT 1001104 Beethoven: Sym.No. 7/ Haydn: Sym. NO.104, "London"
  FURT 1001105 Beethoven: Violin Concerto/ Mozart: Sym. No.39
  FURT 1001106 Beethoven: Sym.No. 3/ Glazunov: Stenka Razin
  FURT 1001007 Brahms: Piano Concerto No.2/ Gluck: Alceste Overture/ D'albert: Tieland Overture
  FURT 1001108 Schubert: Sym.No. 9 ,"Great"/ R. Strauss: Four Songs
  FURT 1001109 Beethoven: Coriolan Overture/ Sibelius: En Saga; Violin Concerto
  FURT 1001110 Beethoven: Sym.No. 5/ Bruckner: Sym.No.6
  FURT 1001111 R. Strauss: Don Juan; Tone Poem after Lenau, Op. 20; Sinfonia Domestica, Op. 53
  FURT 1001112 Beethoven: Sym.No. 4/ Schumann: Piano Concerto
  FURT 1001113 Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 4/ Grieg: Piano Concerto
  FURT 1001114 Beethoven: Sym.No. 9, "Choral"
  FURT 1001115 Handel: Concerto grosso/ Schumann: Cello Concerto/ Wagner: Tristan und Isolde
  专辑曲目:
  DISK 01.MEL FURT 1001100
  01 Brahms Symphony No.4 - Allegro Non Troppo
  02 Brahms Symphony No.4 - Andante Moderato
  03 Brahms Symphony No.4 - Allegro Giocoso
  04 Brahms Symphony No.4 - Allegro Energico E Passionato
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1942.6.21 Berlin
  05 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Choral St. Antoni
  06 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Var.1 Poco Piu Animato
  07 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Var.2 Piu Vivace
  08 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Var.3 Con Moto
  09 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Var.4 Andante Con Moto
  10 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Var.5 Vivace
  11 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Var.6 Vivace
  12 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Var.7 Grazioso
  13 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Var.8 Presto Non Troppo
  14 Variations On A Theme By Haidn - Finale
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1943.12.12 Berlin
  DISK 02.MEL FURT 1001101
  01 Pepping Symphony No.2 - Andante.Alla marica
  02 Pepping Symphony No.2 - Andante tranquillo
  03 Pepping Symphony No.2 - Schrzo
  04 Pepping Symphony No.2 - Finale
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1943.10.30 Berlin
  05 Hymnsches Konzert for soloists,Organ and Orchstra
  Organ and Orchestra
  Erna Brger.soprano
  Walter Ludwig,tenor
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1942.12.6 Berlin
  DISK 03.MEL FURT 1001102
  01 Beethoven Symphony No.6"Pastoral" - Allegro ma non troppo
  02 Beethoven Symphony No.6"Pastoral" - Andante molto mpto
  03 Beethoven Symphony No.6"Pastoral" - Allegro
  04 Beethoven Symphony No.6"Pastoral" - Allegro
  05 Beethoven Symphony No.6"Pastoral" - Allegretto
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1944.3.19 Berlin
  06 Freischutz,Overture to Opera
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1944.3.19 Berlin
  07 Ravel Daphnis et Chloe,suite No.2 - Lever du jour
  08 Ravel Daphnis et Chloe,suite No.2 - Pantomime
  09 Ravel Daphnis et Chloe,suite No.2 - Danse generale
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1944.3.19 Berlin
  DISK 04.MEL FURT 1001103
  01 Bruckner Symphony No.5(original version) - Adagio.Allegro
  02 Bruckner Symphony No.5(original version) - Adagio
  03 Bruckner Symphony No.5(original version) - Scherzo.Molto vivace
  04 Bruckner Symphony No.5(original version) - Finale.Adagio.Allegro moderato
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1942.10.25 Berlin
  DISK 05.MEL FURT 1001104
  01 Beethoven Symphony No.7 - Poco sostenuto,Vivace
  02 Beethoven Symphony No.7 - Allegretto
  03 Beethoven Symphony No.7 - Presto
  04 Beethoven Symphony No.7 - Allegro con brio
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1943.10.31 Berlin
  05 Haydn Symphony No.104"London" - Adagio.Allegro
  06 Haydn Symphony No.104"London" - Andante
  07 Haydn Symphony No.104"London" - Menuetto,Allegro
  08 Haydn Symphony No.104"London" - Final.Allegro spiritoso
  Wiener Philharmoniker
  1944.7.30 Munich(?)
  DISK 06.MEL FURT 1001105
  01 Beethoven Violin Concerto Concerto: Allegro ma non troppo
  02 Beethoven Violin Concerto Concerto: Larghetto
  03 Beethoven Violin Concerto Concerto: Rondo
  Berliner Philharmoniker with Erich Röhn(vn)
  1944.1.12 Berlin
  04 Mozart Symphonie No. 39 : Adagio - Allegro
  05 Mozart Symphonie No. 39 : Andante Con Moto
  06 Mozart Symphonie No. 39 : Menuetto. Allegretto - Trio
  07 Mozart Symphonie No. 39 : Finale. Allegro
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1944.2.7,8 Berlin
  DISK 07.MEL FURT 1001106
  01 Beethoven Symphony No. 3 In E Flat Major, Op. 55 'Eroica': I. Allegro con brio
  02 Beethoven Symphony No. 3 In E Flat Major, Op. 55 'Eroica': II. Marcia funebre. Adagio assai
  03 Beethoven Symphony No. 3 In E Flat Major, Op. 55 'Eroica': III. Scherzo. Allegro vivace
  04 Beethoven Symphony No. 3 In E Flat Major, Op. 55 'Eroica': IV. Finale. Allegro molto
  Wiener Philharmoniker
  1944.12.19(Melodiya唱片公司标示的录音日期1944.12.16有误) Musikvereinsaal, Wien
  05 Glazunov Symphonic Peom In B Minor, Op. 13: Stenka Razin, Symphonic Peom In B Minor, Op. 13
  Wiener Philharmoniker
  1945.2.2(?)
  [Notes ] Conductor unknown. Furtwängler never conducted this work.
  DISK 08.MEL FURT 1001107
  01 Brahms Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No.2: Allegro ma non troppo
  02 Brahms Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No.2: Allegro appassionato
  03 Brahms Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No.2: Andante
  04 Brahms Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No.2: Allegretto grazioso
  Berliner Philharmoniker with Edwin Fischer(Piano)
  1942.11.8 Berlin
  05 Gluck:Alceste.Overture to Opera
  1944.2.10,29 Berlin
  06 D'Albertiefland,Overture to Opera
  1944.7.30 Munich(?)
  DISK 09.MEL FURT 1001108
  01 Schubert Symphony No.9 in C"Great": Allegro Ma Non Troppo
  02 Schubert Symphony No.9 in C"Great": Andante Con Moto
  03 Schubert Symphony No.9 in C"Great": Scherzo Allegro Vivace
  04 Schubert Symphony No.9 in C"Great": Allegro Vivace
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1942.5.31- 6.1,或12.6-8 (Melodiya唱片公司标示的录音日期1942.2.6有误)
  05 Strauss Four Songs for Voice and Orchestra 1 Waldseligkeit, Op.49, No. 1(wds R.Dehmel)
  06 Strauss Four Songs for Voice and Orchestra 2 Liebeshymnos, Op.32, No. 3(wds K.Henckell)
  07 Strauss Four Songs for Voice and Orchestra 3 Verfuhrung,Op.33,No. 1(wds J.H.Mackay)
  08 Strauss Four Songs for Voice and Orchestra 4 Winterliebe,Op.48,No.5(wds K.Henckell)
  Peter Anders,tenor
  1944.2.15 Berlin
  DISK 10.MEL FURT 1001109
  01 En Saga, symphonic poem
  02 Sibelius Concerto for Violin and Orchestra I.Allegro moderato
  03 Sibelius Concerto for Violin and Orchestra II.Adagio di molto
  04 Sibelius Concerto for Violin and Orchestra III.Allegro ma non tanto
  Berliner Philharmoniker with Georg Kulenkampff(vn)
  1943.2.7 - 8 Berlin
  05 Beethoven Coriolan, overture
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1943.6.27 Berlin
  DISK 11.MEL FURT 1001110
  01 Beethoven Symphonie No.5 in C minor, op. 67 Allegro con brio
  02 Beethoven Symphonie No.5 in C minor, op. 67 Andante con moto
  03 Beethoven Symphonie No.5 in C minor, op. 67 Allegro
  04 Beethoven Symphonie No.5 in C minor, op. 67 Allegro
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1943.6.27 - 30 Berlin
  05 Bruckner Symphonie No.6 in A, A105 Adagio (part II)
  06 Bruckner Symphonie No.6 in A, A105 Scherzo (part III)
  07 Bruckner Symphonie No.6 in A, A105 Finale (part IV)
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1943.11.13 - 16 Berlin
  DISK 12.MEL FURT 1001111
  01. Don Juan, tone poem after Lenau, Op. 20
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1942.2.15 Berlin
  02. 1 Thema. Bewegt (Simfonia Domestica, Op. 53)
  03. 2 Thema. Sehr lebhaft (Simfonia Domestica, Op. 53)
  04. 3 Thema. Ruhig (Simfonia Domestica, Op. 53)
  05. Scherzo. Munter (Simfonia Domestica, Op. 53)
  06. Wiegenlied. Massig langsam (Simfonia Domestica, Op. 53)
  07. Adagio. Langsam (Simfonia Domestica, Op. 53)
  08. Finale. Sehr lebhaft (Simfonia Domestica, Op. 53)
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1942.1.9 Berlin
  DISK 13.MEL FURT 1001112
  01. Beethoven Sym No.4 in B flat, Op.60: I. Adagio - Allegro Vivace
  02. Beethoven Sym No.4 in B flat, Op.60: II. Adagio
  03. Beethoven Sym No.4 in B flat, Op.60: III. Menuetto (Allegro Vivace) & Trio (Un Poco Meno Allegro)
  04. Beethoven Sym No.4 in B flat, Op.60: IV. Allegro Ma Non Troppo
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1943.6.27-30 Berlin
  05. Schumann Klavierkonzart Plano Concerto I.Allegro affettuoso
  06. Schumann Klavierkonzart Plano Concerto II.Intermezzo.Andantino grazioso - attacca
  07. Schumann Klavierkonzart Plano Concerto III.Allegro vivace
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1942.3.1-3 Berlin
  DISK 14.MEL FURT 1001113
  01. Beethoven Piano Concerto No.4 In G Major: I Allegro moderato
  02. Beethoven Piano Concerto No.4 In G Major: II Andante con moto
  03. Beethoven Piano Concerto No.4 In G Major: III Rondo: Vivace
  Berliner Philharmoniker & Conrad Hansen(Piano)
  1943.10.30 Berlin
  04. Edward Grieg, Concerto For Piano & Orch. In A Minor, Op. 16, 1 - Allegro Molt...
  05. Edward Grieg, Concerto For Piano & Orch. In A Minor, Op. 16, 2 - Adagio
  06. Edward Grieg, Concerto For Piano & Orch. In A Minor, Op. 16, 3 - Allegro Moderat
  Wiener Philharmoniker & Walter Gieseking(Piano)
  1944.7.30 Grabado en Munich (?)
  DISK 15.MEL FURT 1001114
  01. Beethoven Symphony No. 9: I Alllegro ma non troppo - un poco maestoso
  02. Beethoven Symphony No. 9: II Molto vivace - presto - molto vivace
  03. Beethoven Symphony No. 9: III Adiogo molto e cantabile - andante moderato
  04. Beethoven Symphony No. 9: III Presto - allegro assai - allegro assai vivace - alla marcia - andante maestos...
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  Tilla Briem (Soprano)
  Elisabeth Hongen (Alto)
  Peter Anders (Tenor)
  Rudolf Watzke (Bass)
  Bruno Kittel Choir
  1942.3.22-24 Berlin
  DISK 16.MEL FURT 1001115
  01. Handel Concerto grosso Op. 6 No 10: Ouverture - Allegro
  02. Handel Concerto grosso Op. 6 No 10: Air. Lentement
  03. Handel Concerto grosso Op. 6 No 10: Allegro
  04. Handel Concerto grosso Op. 6 No 10: Allegro
  05. Handel Concerto grosso Op. 6 No 10: Allegro moderato
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1944.2.7 Berlin
  06. Schumann Concerto for cello and Orchestra in A minor, op. 129: I. Nicht zu schnell
  07. Schumann Concerto for cello and Orchestra in A minor, op. 129: II. Langsam
  08. Schumann Concerto for cello and Orchestra in A minor, op. 129: III. Sehr lebhaft
  Berliner Philharmoniker & T. Machula(Cello)
  1942.10.25 - 28 Berlin
  09. Wagner Tristan und Isolde Prelude & Liebestod
  Berliner Philharmoniker
  1942.11.8 - 10 Berlin
最后编辑ttsoo 最后编辑于 2012-09-08 23:22:12
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刚才听了下存在电脑里的APE,比拜罗伊特更强劲有力,这个1942贝多芬第九可谓登峰造极!

这是耳机论坛上有人发的图片,精美啊。
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乌拉尼亚“英雄”本尊录音,苏联攻克柏林抢走的母带,在1993和2006年分别制作了CD,碉堡了。
我听过所有乌拉尼亚中最醇厚的声音,没有叫嚣,也不单薄,留下的是厚重的力量。
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这个是1993年第一次出版的CD,贝多芬第九。

还有一张贝多芬第三,前两天南昌的一位发烧友收藏到一张。
Symphony No.9 "Choral"

Tilla Briem (soprano), Elisabeth Höngen (mezzo-soprano), Peter Anders (tenor), Rudolf Watzke (bass-baritone), Chorus Bruno Kittel, Berliner Philharmoniker, Wilhelm Furtwangler

Melodiya MEL CD 10 00715
(Live recording: Berlin 22.03.1942)
最后编辑ttsoo 最后编辑于 2012-09-06 19:58:59
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这些录音DGG公司也出版过一次(部分),见下图


现在看来当年俄罗斯归还的富特文格勒战时录音磁带资料越来越像是不折不扣的复制品了,前苏联(俄罗斯)在全世界乐迷面前撒了个弥天大谎。听过Melodiya今年出版的16CD套装纪念版录音,再拿出以前DG根据所谓的归还录音出版的9CD富特文格勒战时录音作比较,说得可能过分一点,我个人觉得两者完全不是一回事!考虑到当时录音磁带的复制技术还不像今天那样的完美,包括所谓的文物做旧,以用来欺骗德国国内那些孜孜不倦要讨回当年被盟国夺走的文化宝藏的老古董们的耳朵,回到德国人手中的富特文格勒的战时录音“母带”本身的音质就是已经惨不忍闻了。可笑的就在于DG公司会如获至宝,郑重其事地发行套装。当然如果没有今天Melodiya重新发行,上述的假设也无从谈起。
2006年7月15日由俄罗斯Melodiya唱片公司全球限量发行的MEL-FURT16 套装16CD,据说是源自当年真正的德国母带,全新技术重新转制。连封面都沿用60年代Melodiya出版的原版LP。
关于该套唱片涉及的曲目,大多数乐迷都已经很熟悉了,她几乎涵盖了富特文格勒战时演绎过的从古典到浪漫主义音乐大部,包罗万象。音质更是好得无话可说。
我唯一的疑问是:这么一套壮观的唱片,连编号都是全新的,可是在曲目编排上即没有按照富特文格勒演出的时间先后顺序排列,也没有按照作曲家姓氏首字母排列,看上去有点混乱。转自FrancisZhou的搜狐博客http://musicandart.blog.sohu.com/17965535.html
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原帖由 snova 于 2012-9-6 10:06:00 发表
这个06年的系列一直有买,只是纸盒打包是上扬自己干的。

2006年压的片,还是后来追加压的片??????
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一套一套的卖,其实未必销量能高到哪里去,如果单张单张卖,估计会成为2012年度第一热碟。尤其是贝多芬第九和贝多芬第三这两张。
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万能的海印大佬,尽快进这两张的单张来淘宝,火爆报名,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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9#

第1个报名
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原帖由 雷笑天 于 2012-9-6 20:52:00 发表
[quote] 原帖由 ttsoo 于 2012-9-6 9:19:00 发表

刚才听了下存在电脑里的APE,比拜罗伊特更强劲有力,这个1942贝多芬第九可谓登峰造极!


这是耳机论坛上有人发的图片,精

雷兄,不好意思。对这个不太懂。答不上来,见谅。
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原帖由 yudeanwu 于 2012-9-6 22:24:00 发表
这两套如何?

yudeanwu 兄,这些泰拉公司的录音我没有听过,我一般买CD前,都会先下载到APE听下音效,再去买比较保险。不管谁讲好,都只是参照,自己听着好才是关键。
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另,2006年新版的音效非常好,非常好,比老版绝对有过之无不及。
最后编辑ttsoo 最后编辑于 2012-09-07 08:24:35
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二次世界大战期间,据说德国已经掌握了最初的立体声,这些录音当中据说有些就是利用了最新的实验立体声技术录制。
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贝多芬第三英雄交响曲,这个音质好。
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原帖由 关山月_ 于 2012-10-5 10:41:00 发表
原帖由 ttsoo 于 2012-10-5 10:14:00 发表
贝多芬第三英雄交响曲,这个音质好。



自从听了这版,delta倭货就被我over了。

同意!哈哈,小日本那是LP复刻都是隔靴搔痒
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16#

传说香港即将上市,2012年新版的
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个人觉得,还是本尊母带好,所以我只选择俄罗斯旋律公司出的CD,如果制作成SACD,就更好。
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