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Russian Disc版穆拉文斯基的肖5 [复制链接]

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早就在论坛听里说老穆的肖5很好,估计是指Eraoto那个立体声版本吧。前几天在垃圾场发现了这个Russian Disc版的肖5+6,因为这个公司的唱片第一次看到,虽然是1965年11月24日的现场录音,肖6是1972年1月27日,但制作确是AAD MONO,很怪异。原以为Russian Disc是个俄罗斯的公司,看封底才了解是美国生产的,加拿大印刷。犹豫再三看在穆大叔的面子上还是买下了,后来在Amazon上搜了下介绍,感觉还是买对了。一位国外网友评论说老穆录老肖的唱片很多,加上部分录音版权被西方购买出版常常搞错录音时间等信息,最后弄得非常混乱,他归纳了下,老穆共有4版肖5录音。他还是最喜欢1965年的这版。
Melodiya/BMG (April, 1954) 、Russian Disc (Nov. 1965) 、Russian Disc (1966) 没想到第二年同一公司又出版了另一张肖5的现场、Erato (April, 1984)
我没听过其它老穆的肖5版本,但我买的这版感觉还是很棒的,特别是录音,虽然是MONO,但听起来就像立体声一样,让人非常惊讶,是我听过的最hi的、最不像MOMO的单声道录音。
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最后编辑Sibelius 最后编辑于 2011-08-02 11:36:43
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Mravinsky's recorded legacy is one of the most confused that anyone could hope to untangle. Dates and performances are often jumbled or not provided at all; numerous duplications are in circulation; Soviet originals get licensed to a hodgepodge of Western import labels. But since he is so closely identified with the Shostakovich Fifth, I thought it worthwhile to describe the four versions I know personally.

Melodiya/BMG (April, 1954) -- This performance, the only one done in the studio that I own, was included in the second box set of Mravinsky recordings licensed by Melodiya to RCA/BMG. The sound is Soviet-era mono, but not of the worst sort. The bass isn't overly tubby, and the highs don't shriek. But the performance, surprisingly, is the tamest of the four at hand. There's a certain "official" quality that leads to a lack of intensity. Note that Mravinsky's trademark presto to begin the finale (later adopted by Leonard Bernstein in his famous live MY Phil. account from 1959) hasn't appeared yet. The tempo is Allegro non troppo, as indicated by the score.

Russian Disc (Nov. 1965) -- By comparison with his studio recording, this concert broadcast is more fiery and intense. The sound is a bit shrill and off-putting in the highs, yet the microphone placement takes us right inside the orchestra, adding to the impact of the performance. For a long time I was fooled into thinking that this was in stereo due to the wide soundstage, but on closer examinaiton it's defnitely mono. The racing start to the finale hasn't quite blossomed, but the Largo has sped up -- and yet Mravinsky finds more mystery and longing in it. Unless you must have stereo, this is one of the conductor's greatest Shostakovich recordings.

Russian Disc (1966) -- Another concert broadcast, also in mono, but the microphone placement is further away and has less impact than the one from the year before. The sound overall is a bit dull, but the piccolo shrieks, and the upper strings tend to be gritty. Mravinsky slows the first movement down by a minute and applies less fervor in the phrasing. That tends to be true throughout, until we get to the racing finale, now in full flight. It's confusing that Russian Disc offers duplicate live recordings of the Fifth -- this is decidedly the lesser of the two.

Erato (April, 1984) -- This stereo account joins a number of broadcasts licensed to the West that attempt to offer Mravinsky in best sound. One still faces audience noise (about equal on all three live discs and not overly disturbing). I may be wrong, but I believe this is the same performance once imported by Chant du Monde. The sound is reasonably good, but the stereo separation is narrow and rather distant. Except for clarity, I don't hear such a huge improvement as to make this a decisive choice. Mravinsky is fairly intense -- he hasn't lost his grip 47 years after premiering the symphony - and the racing finale is as exciting as any he ever set down.

Overal, my definite preference is for the 1965 Russian Disc version, paired with Mravinsky's equally riveting account of the Shostakovich 6th from 1972. Second choice would be the 1984 Erato stereo version. As a reading it's middle-of-the-road for Mravinsky, but modern sound has to count for something. And my favorite Shostakovich Fifth outside Mravinsky? I'd divide the honors between the first Bernstein recording (Sony) and Stokowski's stereo remake with the Stadium Sym. of NY on Everest -- once you look past the confusing name, these are both with the NY Phil.
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也推介 現今流通版
Melodiya
MEL CD1000770 (6CD) (6CD=5CD )


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Symphony No. 5 in d minor, Op. 471938/3/27 to 4/3, Leningrad, Studio, Monaural; RE: unknown
MRAVINSKY'S FIRST RECORDING

late 1938 to early 1939, Leningrad, Studio, Monaural; RE: unknown
MRAVINSKY'S FIRST RECORDING AFTER BEING APPOINTED CHIEF CONDUCTOR OF THE LENINGRAD PHILHARMONIC

1954/4/3, Leningrad, Studio, Monaural; RE: David Gaklin

1965/11/24, Grand Hall of Leningrad Philharmonic, Live, Monaural; RE: na

1966, Grand Hall of Leningrad Philharmonic, Live; RE: na

Unknown date, Spring Festival in Prague, Live, Monaural; RE: na

1973/6/29, Grand Hall of Leningrad Philharmonic, Live; RE: na

1978/6/13, Vienna, Grosser Musikvereinssaal, Live; RE: Arfred Tsafrel

1984/4/4, Grand Hall of Leningrad Philharmonic, Live; RE: Semyon Shugal

穆拉文斯基的9版肖5。
我喜欢康德拉欣的录音,够酷。其实海廷克在Decca的录音我也喜欢,那种细腻的刻画从另一角度展现了老肖内心的隐秘。
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新录音里面,LPO的Masur和某小厂的Spivakov指RNO的都很好。
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6#

楼主的这个版本是冷战期间的产品

我一位台湾朋友说是盗版,他有了后来买的正版后,都送我了。
EMT 982
JBL K2 S9800
ARYE K 1XE
DANIEL HERTZ M5
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7#

没想到穆大叔录了那么多,学习了。
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8#

楼主确实捡到宝了,下面是一个日本爱乐者对所有肖五录音的评分,该版是最高评价

http://www.envi.osakafu-u.ac.jp/develp/staff/kudo/dsch/work/sym5e.html
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9#

显然不止4版
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原帖由 cometforce 于 2011-8-2 21:26:00 发表
楼主确实捡到宝了,下面是一个日本爱乐者对所有肖五录音的评分,该版是最高评价

http://www.envi.osakafu-u.ac.jp/ ... sch/work/sym5e.html


切利也演过肖五啊!
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每个人口味不同,也很难说哪个最好。我自己也仅仅听过这一个,但第一印象还是非常好的。这个版本国内也比较少见,特别是在垃圾中发现还是蛮开心的。
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12#

本人淘到款nicone的84年版。
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13#

不错啊 好东西!
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