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电源处理器的疑惑 [复制链接]

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一次与产品作者的对话,仍然未解我心中疑惑。现在经作者同意原稿贴出,希望各位玩家解惑。

本人 问:我买了你的发烧音响电源处理器,用电表逐个测试了处理器的输出插座,出现的情况我很是疑惑(是原产品,没有自己或他人动过)。

电压测试经过及结果(面对输出插座按美标对照):

一、Fitering插口: 品字型,上口为地线、左下口为火线、右下口为零线。
   1、用电笔测量结果:上口为0伏、左下口为240伏 、右下口为240伏。
   2、用万用表测量结果:a、上口与左下口为116伏  b、上口与右下口为122伏  c、右下口与左下口为240伏。

二、Preamplifier插口:品字型,上口为地线、左下口为火线、右下口为零线。
   1、用电笔测量结果:上口为0伏、左下口为240伏 、右下口为240伏。
   2、用万用表测量结果:a、上口与左下口为116伏  b、上口与右下口为122伏  c、右下口与左下口为240伏。

三、Amplifier插口:
   1、用电笔测量结果:上口为0伏、左下口为240伏 、右下口为0伏。
   2、用万用表测量结果:a、上口与左下口为236伏  b、上口与右下口为0伏,右下口与左下口为236伏。
   Amplifier插口是直通的,测试结果没有问题,符合美标接法。

疑惑的问题:
1、Fitering插口,经过了牛并滤波。Preamplifier插口,经过了牛未经过滤波。怎么测试出来的数据完全一样?
2、Fitering插口 和 Preamplifier插口怎么会出现三个口都带电,且出现上述100多伏电压等情况哪?
3、这两组输出插座,完全不符合美标接法啊?

上述问题,还请详细告知。谢谢。
最后编辑兔八哥 最后编辑于 2009-06-25 10:33:40
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验电笔不是电压表显示感应电压,不要考虑。

接地良好
符合美标
可能是平衡电源,即初级经牛变为各1/2电压对称形式,中点接地。再配合全平衡cd机、功放、平衡分频器音箱就组合成彻头彻尾的平衡系统
转帖如下
Promitheus Audio
Balanced Power Supply

What is balanced power?
When 240-volt AC power is balanced, one side of the circuit has +120 Volts to ground while the other has -120 Volts to ground. Standard unbalanced AC power systems have a "hot" conductor and a "neutral" conductor only.
In a balanced power system, the voltages on the system's two output terminals are 180 degrees out of phase to each other with respect to ground. When this happens any noise on the hot is 180 degrees out of phase from the cold terminal therefore canceling each other. A balanced AC Power system works the same way as a balanced audio circuit but with higher amplitude. Both balanced audio and balanced AC incorporate phase cancellation or common mode rejection to eliminate noise. A lower noise floor is a resultant factor of the balanced power

Why do I need balanced power?
In the modern day of digital electronics, there is a lot of noise being polluted in our mains. This power corrupts and masks our audio signals. The dynamic range of the entire electronic signal chain determines the quality of the final product in all recording environments. The presence of any electrical interference at all lowers the S/N ratio of the recording. This limits the subtle detail and realism of the sound or image. Low level signals such as micro-dynamics and micro-details are lost in the noise floor of the system.

Sound quality can also be affected by intermodulation distortion occurring as a result of the presence of ac noise in the audio or digital signal bandwidth. Even if the noise level is inaudible, it is likely that program material will be colored by the presence of electrical interference. Balanced power eliminates all of these problems because there is never ac interference present on the ground to invade signal circuits. Balanced power often increases the dynamic range of a recording system by 16db or more. When balanced power is applied, ground loops and hums problems; even subtle ac noise coloration becomes a thing of the past. The difference can be astonishing as the reduction in noise in the music brings out the inner detailing and ability to “see more” into the music

How is balanced power system (BPS) used?
A BPS may be located anywhere along the ac power from the wall and it’s used to power the entire system. Another method is individual BPS for individual components. This is where the CDP has its own BPS, the preamp has its own BPS and so on and so forth. However the main benefit of the BPS used individual is that its ability to isolate noise from individual equipments feeding back to the mains. This allows the individual components e.g. a CDP to be isolated from the rest of the equipments. Noise from the other equipments is isolated to itself only. For instance the CDP noise is isolated and clean up at the CDP’s BPS and not being allowed to follow back into the mains. This way every individual component has its own DEDICATED CLEANS MAINS to extract the full potential of the component.  A main unit of BPS feeding the entire system is a starting point in trying out the BPS. However if opportunity arises dedicated BPS in the system brings out the best in the system. This is because a BPS isolates and cleans up the mains for your HIFI system from the wall. But individual components will pollute the mains within the BPS system i.e. digital noise and hash. The main BPS cannot clean dirty mains within the loop but only from the mains into the HIFI chain.
Other power conditioners and voltage regulator may be used with the BPS. It is also known that good power cord feeding the BPS does increase the level of performance from the BPS. This only draws that other company’s offerings such as Monster Cable, Richard Gray and Shunyata are highly recommended to be used in conjunction with the BPS as it will enhance the overall listening pleasure of the audiophile.

Recommend Usage of the BPS
At the moment, there 3 different BPS models that are the:
Opus 500
Opus Intermediate
Opus Magna
The Opus 500 is a 500VA capacity BPS which is recommended for powering individual components such as:
1)
CDP
2)
Turntable
3)
Phono preamp (Valve or Solidstate)
4)
Preamp (Valve or Solidstate)
5)
Single Ended Valve power Amps such as 2A3, 300b
The Opus 500 is also can be used to power all the front end equipment but individual BPS is highly recommended for the best listening pleasure.
A review of the unit can be found at www.desirableaudio.blogspot.com

The Opus Intermediate is a 1000VA capacity BPS which recommend for higher power components such as
1)
Small to Medium Power Push Pull Valve power amps (<65 Watts)
2)
Class A Solid-State Amps (<30 watts) and Class AB Solid-State (<60 watts)
The Opus Intermediate can be used to power all the front end equipment but again individual BPS is highly recommended This unit address the need for noise reduction in our power amps where the last bit of music is amplify and given life to perform.

The opus Magna is the biggest offering to date and the hardest to make. It’s the company’s prime incarnation of the BPS. All the sweat and blood is put into this unit to make it outstanding. Only few are made at one time. These are custom made to customers requirement and are made to spec to the customers requirement. Its power capacity is 2000VA but larger power requirement can be made tailored to the customer’s needs. Its recommend for higher power equipments like power amps or it may be used to power the entire audio system.  

To find out more about our current offerings on the BPS please feel free to browse our website at www.promitheusaudio.com or drop us a mail at Nicholas@promitheusaudio.com.
最后编辑不学有术 最后编辑于 2009-06-24 21:32:50
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虽然看不懂西文,还是谢谢楼上。
用Word原文翻译西文:
Promitheus音频平衡的电源什么是平衡的力量?  当240伏特的交流电能是平衡的时,电路的一边有+120伏特研,当其他有-120伏特研时。 标准失衡的交流电能系统有仅一个“热的”指挥和一个“中立”指挥。  在一个平衡的动力系统,电压在系统的二输出终端互相是180度在阶段外面关于地面。 当这发生时因此所有噪声在热是180度在阶段外面从取消的冷的终端。 一个平衡的交流电能系统运作方式和一条平衡的音频电路一样,但以更高的高度。 平衡的音频和平衡的AC合并阶段取消或共态抑制消灭噪声。 一个更低的噪声地板是平衡的力量的一个总值因素为什么我需要平衡的力量?  在现代天数字电子学,有在我们的扼要被污染的很多噪声。 这力量腐败并且掩没我们的音频信号。 整个电子信号链子的力学范围在所有录音环境里确定最终产品的质量。 所有电子干涉出现根本降低录音的S/N比率。 这限制声音或图象的微妙的细节和现实主义。 低级信号例如微动力学和微细节在系统的噪声地板丢失。   品质优良在音频或数字信号带宽可能受发生由于ac噪声出现的互调扭曲的也影响。 即使噪声级是不能听见的,它是可能的节目材料将被电子干涉出现上色。 因为从未有ac干涉在侵略信号电路的地面平衡的力量消灭所有这些问题。 平衡的力量由16db或更多经常增加记录系统的力学范围。 当平衡力量是应用,接地回路并且哼唱着问题; 甚而微妙的ac噪声着色成为过去的事。 区别可以是令人惊讶的,当对噪声的减少在音乐提出内在详述,并且能力“看见更多”入音乐怎么是(BPS)使用的平衡的动力系统?  一BPS也许任何地方沿交流电能位于从墙壁,并且它曾经供给整个系统动力。 另一个方法是各自的BPS为各自的组分。 这是CDP有它自己的BPS的地方,前置放大器有它自己的BPS等等等等。 然而BPS的主要好处使用了是它的能力隔绝噪声从单个设备反馈到扼要的个体。 这允许各自的组分即。 与设备的其余将隔绝的CDP。 噪声从其他设备只离析本身。 例如CDP噪声被隔绝并且清扫在CDP的BPS和不允许跟随回到扼要。 每个单独组分有它自己热忱的这样清洗扼要提取组分的潜能。  哺养整个系统的BPS一台主机是一个出发点在试验BPS。 然而,如果机会在系统来了热忱的BPS提出最佳在系统。 这是,因为一BPS从墙壁隔绝并且清扫扼要为您的高保真系统。 但各自的组分在BPS系统之内将污染扼要即。 数字式噪声和回锅碎肉。 主要BPS不可能清洗肮脏的仅扼要在圈之内,而是从扼要入高保真链子。  其他动力调节器和电压调整器也许使用以BPS。 它也知道哺养BPS的好电源线从BPS增加表现的水平。 这只画其他公司的奉献物例如妖怪缚住,理查灰色,并且高度推荐Shunyata与BPS一道使用,因为它将提高整体听的乐趣audiophile。   当时推荐BPS的用法,那里3不同BPS是的模型: 电视剧500电视剧中间电视剧优秀大学毕业生电视剧500是为供给i动力被推荐的500VA容量BPS

将就连看带猜的揣摩了。
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产品作者 答:  隔离后出来的电压没有零火之分了.
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