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李云迪emi肖邦全集录音评价 [复制链接]

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转自外媒体:
The pianist formerly known as Yundi Li now reappears as Yundi, and with a new label behind him. On the basis of his strong, incisive Chopin Scherzi for DG, I had high hopes for his EMI debut consisting of all 20 Chopin Nocturnes. To be sure, Yundi's technique is beyond cavil, and everything sounds uniformly pretty and tasteful. But not much else. The fault partially lies with overly resonant engineering that places the piano at a distance in a kind of sonic halo, smoothing out the registers and the dynamics and blurring slow-moving sustained music such as Op. 62 No. 1's long trills. It's as if the piano had been transformed into an angelic harp. As a result, the notes emerge all at the same timbral and emotional level, with little sense of the music's harmonic tension and contrapuntal interest. When Yundi's not bland (which is most of the time), he's prosaic, as the square, lethargic Op. 55 No. 2 and tensionless Op. 32 No. 2 selections bear out. And there are fussy moments, such as how Op. 27 No. 1's climax dissipates due to Yundi's tapered phrasing. Compare Yundi's Nocturnes to Nelson Freire's equally beautiful yet infinitely more detailed and musically deeper interpretations--or listen to Rubinstein, Pires, or Ashkenazy--to hear what's really in this music. File this one in your collection's New Age section
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基本同时期发行的decca弗莱雷版的评价,同上面来自同一人

Intimacy, lyricism, and subtle textural diversity characterize Nelson Freire's Chopin Nocturnes, as opposed to Ashkenazy's stronger dynamic projection, Arrau's searching rhetoric, or Moravec's darkly-lit corners. The pianist's approach has mellowed and refined since he first recorded a selection of these works in the early 1970s for Telefunken. There are illuminating details to savor, and many more to discover on repeated hearings.


Freire's unorthodox slowing down of the F-sharp Op. 15 No. 2 coda is justified by the pianist's strong left-hand underpinning, while he manages to impart poetry in Op. 27 No. 2's rapid passagework in strict tempo. His sophisticated accentuation throughout Op. 15 No. 3 and Op. 55 No. 2 allows the phrases to soar in long melodic sentences liberated from barlines. Notice also how Freire's animated treatment of Op. 62 No. 1 still allows room for underlining harmonic surprises and for the long trills to materialize with the utmost control, evenness, and beauty.


Op. 37 No. 2's double notes gorgeously ring out, while an implied contrapuntal line emerges from the top of Op. 55 No. 1's left-hand chords. And speaking of left-hand chords, Freire is not averse to rolling them, but he does so with discretion and good taste (the famous Op. 9 No. 2, for example).


Decca's warm, well-balanced engineering perfectly suits Freire's interpretations, and the label's two-for-one price may be enticement enough for some music lovers. Even if you already own a Nocturnes cycle, try to spend some quality time with Freire. [4/13/2010]
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小李同学的夜曲明显要实惠多嘛。迄今为止最喜欢的一张李云迪的唱片。
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评价说:空有技术,感情空洞?
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稍作一点关于评分的补充:

LZ 转载以上乐评均为撰稿人 Jed Distler 在古典音乐乐评网页 Classics Today 对新发行的这两套肖邦夜曲所作的评论 (http://www.classicstoday.com/) 。该网对CD录音评分以艺术质量和音响质量两个方面表示,每方面均以 10 分为满分。 Jed Distler 对李云迪的这套评分是艺术质量 6 分,音响质量 6 分;而对 Nelson Freire 的那套评分是艺术质量 10 分,音响质量 10 分。当然,独家之言,仅供参考。
最后编辑keli 最后编辑于 2010-04-20 23:40:15
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一上classicstoday就看到个大标题
NORRINGTON’S STUPID MAHLER 9TH ......
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"File this one in your collection's New Age section."
"Even if you already own a Nocturnes cycle, try to spend some quality time with Freire. "
这两坨口水喷的~
茶树菇没问题。
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8#

哇,这么不客气,把李小弟说的一钱不值。。。。
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9#

Freire那套确实好 听过Freire再听小李的就觉得小李的滥情了
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还没听过Freire的,感觉这什么年代了,肖邦的夜曲居然敢卖高价,不买,等减价。
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原帖由 hopeman. 于 2010-4-21 2:09:00 发表
哇,这么不客气,把李小弟说的一钱不值。。。。

有一半的段落在攻击EMI的录音吧。。。。。不知道是否指桑骂槐。
让我最不爽的是,人家那边Freire是two for one price,咋我们这里这么贵?
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CHOPIN The Nocturnes. Nelson Freire. Decca 2cds £10.25 1 £10.25
芒格:"不要同一头猪摔跤,因为这样你会把全身弄脏,而对方却乐此不疲。"
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Nelson Freire的唱片好像都不贵,难得DECCA的头牌不值钱?
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14#

很同意jed的观点
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Nelson Freire 的那套夜曲我上个星期在JS那听了一下,
当时箱子是B&W 801D,CD是怀念(型号不明),功放是麦景图的6900,
感觉该碟的录音尚可,但算不上非常好,至少高频不出彩且偏薄;
演绎嘛,如果说他可以算十分的话,那鲁宾斯坦和皮尔斯岂不是可以得15分了?~~~
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也推介;
Cascavelle
VEL3064(2cd)// Ciccolini 版
樂評:
http://www.sunrisemusic.com.hk/middle-07-review-details.php?nowreview=359_4
VEL 3064 (2CD)
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琴藝如入化境,佐以義大利名琴Fazioli的曼妙音色,
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瑞士原裝進口
VEL3064 (2CD).JPG (, 下载次数:0)

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VEL3064 (2CD).JPG

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原帖由 ANDRE 于 2010-4-24 14:15:00 发表
也推介;
Cascavelle
VEL3064(2cd)// Ciccolini 版
樂評:
[url=http://www.sunrisemusic.com.hk/middle-07-review-details.php?nowreview=359_4]http://www.sunrisemusic.com.hk/middle-07-r......

这个确实不错
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19#

如有缘要听听
如果你都遇上咗一啲变化,一啲莫名其妙嘅变化,请你唔好惊,唔好乱,唔好放弃.
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昨天买了Nelson Freire的夜曲
一听就喜欢!推荐!
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