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请教各位介绍一台四万内的超值合并功放 [复制链接]

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最近想为PMCOB1找一台合适的合并机,要求价格在4万元内,推动能力要强分析力和速度感要好一点,而且3D空间感要强一点,因为主要听古典音乐较多,现音源是美国的AYRE的CX-7E,线材是荷兰的VDH,因为现在的功放功力不足因而产生升级的念头,请各位大紹 虾指点一下!
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最后编辑jason78 最后编辑于 2009-04-22 17:24:52
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要么用THOR2要么就是ARC的60合并机。
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回复 1# jason78 的帖子

OB1对功放要求较高,最好用前后级。
您不妨考虑二手,4万元可以买到二手很好的了。
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如果我再推荐用德国之声合并机,怕是被指责卖广告了,哈哈。
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首先绝对不选择二手的器材。有朋友都推荐了几个品牌想大家帮忙参考一下:加拿大BRYSTON的B100合并机、英国CHORD的2650合并、英国NAIM的SUPERNAIT合并、纽西兰PERREAUX的PRISMA150I合并机,本人进入了PERREAUX的网站看了它的介绍也是相当有历史的的品牌,而且在国外的评价也是相当高的,请教各位老大对此机的评价如何,配PMC OB1怎样,以上的几款合并机那一款较合适呢?
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您为何绝对不选择二手的器材呢?
您看到的几款合并对OB1的低频恐力有不逮,呵呵。。。
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我个人的意愿也是绝对不选择二手器材,呵呵。
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那么楼主试试MBL的7008吧,不知现在的价格超4万没有?
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MBL推OB1是不行的,之前试过低频控制力不行,OB1所需要的低音的速度感要好,反应敏捷,看评论PERREAUX的150i比较合适,大家对这东西了解吗?
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建议去听听德国之声的合并机,或许你会喜欢。如果喜欢胆机,ARC的东西比较适合你的OB1。
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DENSEN B150
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盟约立誓比天高;
音韵悠扬飘袅袅;
响彻云霄照九州!
【走向国际,努力尊定「中国声」标准!】
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12#

可以考虑Octave V70
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如是我就:二手PASS250后级+前级,这个搭配应不错。
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纽西兰还有一家叫PLINIUS的, 也是上A级旁的, SA205, SA103, SA REF之类的都是A类暖声的,  
PERREAUX很受本地年青人喜欢, 适合放流行曲, 本地听古典的比较少用
150i要四万这么贵? 看来海外卖的都是比本地贵很多,
原帖由 jason78 于 2009-3-21 12:40:00 发表
首先绝对不选择二手的器材。有朋友都推荐了几个品牌想大家帮忙参考一下:加拿大BRYSTON的B100合并机、英国CHORD的2650合并、英国NAIM的SUPERNAIT合并、纽西兰PERREAUX的PRISMA150I合并机,本人进入了PERREAUX的网站看了它的介绍也是相当有历史的的品牌,而且在国外的评价也是相当高的,请教各位老大对此机的评价如何,配PMC OB1怎样,以上的几款合并机那一款较
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可以选择柏林之声的051合并机,但是价位可能超过4万元了,我听过您所提及的PERREAUX的前后级,如果没有记错型号是SM6MKII和350后级,后级功率是350瓦,声音平行于净,速度和分析力都是不错的,音域的宽广度空间感十分强,而且推动的音箱是B&W的802D,CD机是柏林之声的991CD机,表现也是很贵气的,我想它的前后级有这么好的表现它的合并机一定是不错的,而且perreaux还有一台更大的合并机叫250i,功率是250瓦输出的,我想这个250I会更好的,楼主可以上一下官方网站看一下:www.perreaux.com
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我想来设个擂台:
就谈推动SP100R。

比较对象是目前有的产品机器,进口国产不限,价格:销售成交价格在四万以内。

找到一个实实在在的机型,并通过实际聆听验证,证明比我提供的这台M88出色,我赠送价值1000元的发烧补品,管子,线材,电容。。。。

送给谁?送给推荐机器的主张者,呵呵
注意:是产品的机器,不是DIY的产品。

三越的考虑过吗?
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Perreaux factory visit and eloquence play
After being in Dunedin for work, I had some time to kill so I tracked down the Perreaux factory on the way home.

After explaining how excited I was about the new amps and how I intend to buy one in the near future (as long as the credit crisis doesn’t make it to Alexandra) they were happy for me to sit down and have a play with a 250i on their test bench. Martin (we’re on a first name basis now ), even encouraged me to get my ipod from the car and plug it in the 3.5mm jack in the front to see how it goes.

It was great to see when you plugged the jack into the amp the volume automatically spun down for the current input and the spun up for the ‘Auxiliary’ input. I’m not sure if that would occur from every input though. The same sort of thing occurred when I plugged in the Headphones…spin down, spin up… cool. There were buttons under the display to navigate but you could also use the volume knob as well. The volume control had a push motion to make a selection with the menu.

Also worth noting was that the volume seems quite trick. When spun fast the volume changed quickly but when moved slowly it the volume changed in small increments.

Mostly, with my limited time there I played with the menu interface and most importantly for me checked out the DAC options. From memory it looked like you could setup the different DAC inputs individually. For instance whether there was upsampling on the input or sharpness (?). You could also re-label the inputs as you like.

Visually, I like the manly chunky face plate. The colour was not too dark or too silver. The volume control was nice big milled piece of aluminum. It all combined to a unique, masculine, contemporary look. Definitely looks better in the flesh than in my photos. I'm also guessing it will look even better in my lounge.

Although the listening setup was not the most appealing for me (and rather too rushed!). I can report that there was no apparent lack of power under the hood. That transformer was huge! They were using some rather large looking Image speakers for testing. I couldn’t tell you the model. But they sounded sweet.

They would tell me when the eloquence was going to be released but by looking at all those, for what I could see, completed amps all lined up it must be only days way.

I was allowed to take some pictures while I was there. You can see my crappy ipod cable hanging out the 250i I was playing with and whole bunch of 150is which looked about to be shipped.









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Amp: Marantz SR8000
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Sub: Rythmik Audio Servo
Cables: Philsonic

    
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以下是PERREAUX在国外的一些介绍和售价:


  
 Perreaux 閘oquence 150i Integrated Amplifier

The 150i is a compact integrated amplifier with big attitude. 150 watts per channel into 8 ohms, 300 into 4. It has been designed with the highest precision engineering to deliver world class sound with no compromises. Remote controlled, versatile preamp front-end allows naming of inputs, individual input volume control and user friendly features such as gradual muting and muting when switching sources. As well, 1 balanced input, 4 RCA inputs, add-on DAC and phono cards provide future proofing and functionality in a tidy one-box package. For those needing massive speaker control, with no sacrifice of tonality, colour or richness, the 150i is a showstopping product. Build quality is second to none. Price: $5500.00
 Perreaux 閘oquence 250i Integrated Amplifier

The 250i is Perreaux's most powerful, most sophisticated integrated amplifier. 250 watts per channel into 8 ohms, 500 into 4. It has been designed with the highest precision engineering to deliver world class sound with no compromises. Remote controlled, versatile preamp front end allows naming of inputs, individual input volume control and user friendly features such as gradual muting and muting when switching sources. As well, 1 balanced input, 4 RCA inputs, add-on DAC and phono cards provide future proofing and functionality in a tidy one-box package. For those needing massive speaker control, with no sacrifice of tonality, colour or richness, the 150i is a showstopping product. Build quality is second to none. Price: $7600.00
 Perreaux SX25 Power Amplifier

The Silhouette Series SX25 is a compact 25 Watt per channel, high quality, stereo hi-fi audio power amplifier. Used to improve your existing system or as part of a complete Silhouette system, the SX25 offers a significant performance increase. As with all Perreaux products, the design features audiophile grade components throughout. High current drive gives the SX25 the ability to maintain control of a wide range of loudspeakers, even with a modest power output of 25W. Price: $1160.00
 Perreaux SX60m Mono-Aural Power Amplifier

The Silhouette Series SX60m is a 60 Watt mono-aural (monoblock) hi-fi audio power amplifier. The SX60m packs punch well above its weight, with the highest power-per-cubic-centimetre of any Class-A, Class-AB or Class-B power amp on the market today - the power output from its small stature is astounding. As with all Perreaux products, the design features the finest audiophile grade componentry. Price: $1160.00
 Perreaux SXD2 USB DAC

The Silhouette Series SXD2 USB DAC is a Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) with Universal Serial Bus (USB) connectivity. Offering upsampling to 192kHz with 24-bit resolution, the SXD2 is an effective way to improve CD player performance. Computer based audio can be played-back using the SXD2 via the USB connection. Essentially, the SXD2 USB DAC is a high end external sound card, offering hi fi audio performance not only for music, but also gaming and production. The SXD2 comprises of a high-resolution 24-bit Burr Brown (Texas Instruments) DAC and offers automatic upsampling to a maximum of 192kHz/24-bit. CD players with an onboard DAC can be enhanced by the increased resolution and upsampling functionality of the SXD2 USB DAC. Utilised as an external sound card via the USB port, the SXD2 provides a convenient method of accessing computer stored music files. Being an external sound card, with its own linear power supply, the SXD2 is isolated from the computers power supply noise - which is detrimental to the performance of traditional PCI sound cards and port-powered external sound cards. The SXD2 USB DAC appeals to a new generation of music lovers, namely those that appreciate the increased resolution the unit provides to their existing CD player and additionally, want audiophile quality reproduction of computer based audio. Price: $1358.00
 Perreaux SXH2 Headphone Amplifier

The Silhouette Series SXH2 is a powerful and precise solid state headphone amplifier module offering superior dynamics, control and resolution whilst having an open and neutral musical sound. Price: $920.00
 Perreaux SXP2 Passive Preamplifier

The Silhouette Series SXP2 is a compact and stylish passive preamplifier (passive attenuator) and input selector. An entirely passive device, the SXP2 contains no power supply or electronics to affect the audio signal. Ensuring noise levels remain at an absolute minimum and no sonic signature is imposed on the audio signal by the SXP2. This results in quiet, detailed, and dynamic reproduction of any audio signal. As with all Perreaux products, the SXP2 features the finest audiophile grade components throughout. Price: $790.00
 Perreaux SXV2 Phono Preamplifier

The Silhouette Series SXV2 is a precision phono preamplifier. Featuring two separate low-noise input stages - one tailored specifically for moving coil (MC) cartridges the other for moving magnet (MM), the SXV2 provides the best possible performance for any cartridge. Matching the SXV2 to the cartridge couldn't be simpler; adjusting load resistance, load capacitance, gain and RIAA curve via the external DIP switches. Price: $1358.00
 Perreaux SX25i 25W Stereo Integrated Amplifier

The Silhouette Series SX25i is a compact and stylish 25W per channel, high quality, stereo integrated hi fi audio amplifier module. The SX25i is the unit of choice when high quality audio reproduction is required for a small room, office or apartment environment. As with all Perreaux products, the design features the finest audiophile grade componentry throughout. Price: $1160.00
 Perreaux SXCD CD Player

The Silhouette Series SXCD compact disc player is a two-box CD player designed specifically for stereo music. Inside the SXCD you'll find the latest surface mount technology (SMT), multiple regulated power supplies, ultra-short signal paths and optimal digital and analog circuit design. At the heart of the SXCD is a computer optical drive which provides an architecture that completely eliminates jitter and data timing errors between the optical mechanism and audio converter. The Burr-Brown (Texas Instruments) 8x oversampling, 44.1kHz, 16-bit digital to analog converter (DAC) provides high quality analog output - resulting in a wide, open soundstage with 3D like depth, pinpoint stereo imaging and the authoritative sound that Perreaux is renowned for. A transformer coupled SPDIF coaxial digital output is provided via a 75?BNC connector for connection to an external DAC module, a precision master clock ensures this data stream retains very low jitter levels. Remote control is offered by RS232 via the RJ45 pLINK port as well as an RC-5 remote input jack, allowing easy integration into automation and control solutions. In addition, RS232 allows upgrades of the SXCD system firmware. The SXCD is subtle and discreet, allowing seamless integration into existing hi-fi audio systems or the perfect compliment to other products from the Silhouette range. Price: $2198.00
 
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再提供一下150I和250I的SPE资料:
  • 150i
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150i

150i 150W Stereo Integrated Amplifier
The 150i is a compact integrated amplifier with big attitude. It has been designed with precision engineering using the latest in technological advances to ensure seamless integration into any system. The 150i won't disappoint.

250i Specs
Dimensions: 
Width:426mm (16.8")
Depth:344mm (13.5")
Height:149mm (5.9")
Weight:25kg (55lb)
Amplifier: 
Rated Power Output (per channel):250Wrms into 8Ω
500Wrms into 4Ω
Maximum Power Output (prior to clipping, per channel):320Wrms into 8Ω
500Wrms into 4Ω
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise0.001% @ 1kHz, 250W into 8Ω
Typically: 
20Hz to 20kHz:less than 0.020%, 250W into 8Ω
20Hz to 20kHz:less than 0.010%, 1W into 8Ω
Frequency Response 
20Hz to 20kHz:+0.00dB, -0.15dB
5Hz to 60kHz:+0.00dB, -0.50dB
Damping Factor:800 @ 1kHz, 250W into 8Ω
Signal to Noise Ratio (unweighted):better than 100dB, ref. 250W
Preamplifier: 
Input Impedance 
Unbalanced:12kΩ
Balanced:22kΩ
Input Overload 
Unbalanced:8Vrms
Balanced:8Vrms
Volume Control Range:-95.5dB to +31.5dB
Volume Control Resolution:0.5dB per step
Input Volume Trim Range:±40dB
Balance Resolution:0.5dB
Balance Range:±40dB

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Specifications

150i Specs
Dimensions: 
Width:426mm (16.8")
Depth:344mm (13.5")
Height:102mm (4.0")
Weight:17kg (37.4lb)
Amplifier: 
Rated Power Output (per channel):150Wrms into 8Ω
300Wrms into 4Ω
Maximum Power Output (prior to clipping, per channel):190Wrms into 8
300Wrms into 4Ω
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise0.001% @ 1kHz, 150W into 8Ω
Typically: 
20Hz to 20kHz:less than 0.020%, 150W into 8Ω
20Hz to 20kHz:less than 0.010%, 1W into 8Ω
Frequency Response 
20Hz to 20kHz:+0.00dB, -0.15dB
5Hz to 60kHz:+0.00dB, -0.50dB
Damping Factor:800 @ 1kHz, 150W into 8Ω
Signal to Noise Ratio (unweighted):better than 100dB, ref. 150W
Preamplifier: 
Input Impedance 
Unbalanced:12kΩ
Balanced:22kΩ
Input Overload 
Unbalanced:8Vrms
Balanced:8Vrms
Volume Control Range:-95.5dB to +31.5dB
Volume Control Resolution:0.5dB per step
Input Volume Trim Range:±40dB
Balance Resolution:0.5dB
Balance Range:±40dB
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