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急米!甩卖德国名器Candeias转盘+解码西装一套 [复制链接]

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二手,托朋友从香港买来的,用了半年不到,转盘是三洋的光头,换起来很方便,也很便宜,我放深蓝和黑胶盘很好。本来上次买过一次,但是因各种原因没有成交,现在升级目标定下了,需要米,大降价出了算了,考虑到各种因素,不出外地,仅限上海当面交易,大家都放心,请外地的朋友见谅,价格为12500,大刀就不要来了,联系电话:13917082791(请白天直接电话联系,谢谢)
Candeias这个品牌在国内不常见,是德国Hi-end品牌,德国制造,均为II代,声音特点可以见台湾myav网友的评论
CANDEIAS先生是位德国人,现在是C。EC。的设计师,CEC。许多著名的产品(主要是转盘)均出自他手,原来他用自己的名字开了间公司,生产自转盘,DAC,PRE及POW一系列的产品,不过大概在'98年时关门,专职为CEC做设计,现住在上海浦东

(1) Candeias Modelo 第二代 D/A 是德国制,
(2)第一代仅RCA输出, 二代D/A具备RCA及平衡输出,
(3)约A4大小, 但重量可一点也不轻, 质量兼具, 之前是搭配MF A3。2 CD player, 硬是比原来CD player的表现好上一截, 钢琴伴奏晶莹剔透, 尤其人声干净细嫩, 细节分明喔~ 喜欢人声的网兄值得一试

音乐性与音响性的完美结合,最终的唯一DAC 体验真正的"Hi-End"美声 candeias MODELO II DAC absolutely hi-end, details and musical dac can be find

这台D/A内容非常扎实丰富,声音的三度空间感很好,质感很好,虽然低频的分析力与量感跟一些美国知名D/A比较还是力有未逮,但是也因如此,声音听起来都不会有粗躁过冲的感觉,1。8V的输出虽然听感不会感到"大港",但是声音的细致却是一如其它德国器材一样的细致又准确。原则上这D/A所表现的音场是往后延展的那一型。机器虽小,但抱起来觉得很重。输入与输出端子丰富,完全是平衡式的做法。不过价格也不是太便宜,但是若跟同价位或在高档一些的机器比较,又觉得很超值。 我想这台是第二次升级D/A的朋友好选择。不太适合初哥,因为我觉得初哥应该是要找像CDT-15那种CD唱盘,有晶体与管子的输出,这样才好玩才有乐趣!
其规格为:
数字输入:同轴、光纤(Toslink)、平衡(AES/EBU)
模拟输出:平衡、同轴
采双电源全平衡设计。

我这两天一直在比较508。20与CANDEIAS D/A的声音,我觉得CANDEIAS对于转盘也很敏感,若是用上不错的盘接,那么声音的表现真的很惊人。像我用508。20(发烧天书A级榜的产品)内部的D/A直接听,说真的声音虽好,但离CANDEIAS D/A的表现还是差一截,也许是我接508。20是好转盘的缘故,所以也提升了CANDEIAS D/A的表现。
我认为这D/A值得接高等级的转盘,若是转盘很普普,那么也别寄望这D/A会有高超的水平。反之。。。这D/A就很厉害了!

昨天抱一台MERIDIAN 508。20的CD唱盘接这一台D/A,与CD原D/A做了一个比较, 其实MERIDIAN本身的D/A声音其实就很好听了,昨天与这台D/A一比。。。。。。。。。
MERIDIAN 赢了。。。。。。。。。。
赢在哪里???。。。。。。。。。。。。。
。声音比较大声(因为这D/A的GAIN比MERIDIAN小一点)。。。。
那。。。。。还有哪里赢呢???。
喔! MERIDIAN 声音粗躁感比CANDIEAS好一点。。。。。。。
。那么还有呢??。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
SORRY! 其它MERIDIAN 508。20全都输
是MERIDIAN 不好吗???。。。。。。。不不不,我觉得在这价位的CD唱盘MERIDIAN 508的表现很优!音乐性又好,
不过。。。。遇到这台体积比它小但重量比它重的D/A是有一点招架不住。。。。。
我觉得这D/A最好还是要用好一点的盘,这样效果比较明显。
PS:以上比较是在我家的系统上,不代表您家也是如此! 参考就好。

我也是CANDIEAS modelo II DAC的用家,
转盘使用CEC TL-1X, 声音的走向与小石兄描述的很接近,
声音密度非常高,音场深度够,低频也相当厚实。
新版的modelo好像比旧版的多了平衡输出,
对于有平衡输入扩大机的用家是一个不错的选择。
Candieas先生是德国人,被誉为音响设计天才,
除了自创品牌的音响外,他也帮CEC设计制作一些机器,
所以我想这部DA与CEC的机器应该蛮搭的吧(至少平衡脚位相符)。
同是用家,
帮您推一下!
这台DA的高低延伸够,
而且音场很清楚,
双单声道、全平衡设计。
是台用料、电路、声音都有不错表现的好机器喔!
CANDEIAS MODELO II D/A声音很好,是小弟的爱机之一,尤其接CEC的盘更是厉害。
我现在接Accuphase的盘声音也很好,值得推荐!

喔。。。对了,上次这D/A有接一台SONY SACD 777,声音也相当棒,当然比原机CD的声音好上一截。

Candeias Modelo 第二代 D/A是部非常超值的器材,15万元内很难有对手
相当好声的DAC,帮您推荐!!!有音场不够宽深分明,形体不够凝聚有毛边,全频段质感不够好,低频不够沈潜解析,泛音空气感不够的系统,有相当程度的改善效果。另外此机外型制作工艺水平甚佳输出入端子更是丰富。

音质细腻度不错,空间营造感好,低频我个人认为不是大港型。不过有沉下去。

技术特性如下
MODELO D/A-CONVERTER
This D/A Converter features extremley compact digital technology。 The compact layout of the
components means that sophisticated technology, which is usually found only in large units, can befitted into small MODELO-sized units。 A construction technique that eleminates wiring ensures high operational realiability and short signal paths。

‧Jitter Rejection
Input stage with especially high jitter rejection (supression of clock fluctuations in the digital music signal) to give much more detailed sound reproduction。
‧ Precision Digital to Analog Conversion
4 High-End hybrid D/A (Bitstream for lower Bits, Multibit for higer Bits) conversion with 8 times oversampling - this conversion system exhibits no inherent zero distortion, or problems with bit alignment, converter monotony or ageing。 The Signal is digitally balanced。

‧ Top Class Analog Signal Processing
Sophisticated analog signal processing using high-precision FET amplifiers and very tightly toleranced electronic components characterised by extremly low loss factors and particularly good transient response and harmonic distortion allows a reproduction with great richness of detail, precise spatial separation of music and without harshness。

‧ Power Supply
A stabilised power pack
with separate torodial-transformers
for each channel, a secondary power filtering circuit, in excess of 50,000 μF of capacitors and 6 regulated supply voltages ensure
dynamic response, bass control and precise spatial representation。
‧ Printed conductors are twice as thick as usual (70 μm) to minimise acoustic losses on the printed circuit board。
‧ Rounded-edge printed conductors in the digital circuitry prevent field-strength concentrations that distort sound。
‧ Very short signal paths thanks to modern, computer-optimised circuit layout。
Technical Data:
24-Bit decoder
DAC resolution over 20 bit multibit standard
Balanced ringing free digital filter
Frecuency response: 1 Hz - 20 kHz, digital deemphasis
THD: 0。005%
Signal to Noise ratio: >110 dB
Channel separation: > 95 dB
Output Level: 1。8 V max。
Class A output stage
POWER
D/A-CONVERTER
INPUT STATUS
CD AUX DAT DATA EMPHASIS OPTIC。 COAX。 ERROR

Ultra fast Logic
A typical digital signal is a igh?•squarewave with 0 V for logical ow?and 5 V for logical
An ideal squarewave does not exist because of the finite rising and falling speed of logical devices。
A usual high speed logic device needs a time of app。 10 ns igh? The devices•to rise from ow?to
used in the Candeias DAC have only a risetime of app。 1。5 ns。
Logical devices have no exactly defined switching igh? The value for this point•point from ow?to
lies between app。 2。5 V and 3。5 V。

The consequence is an additional random jitter of max。 2 ns for a usual high speed device and only
0。3 ns for the ultra high speed devices。
For better understanding an example:
A complete optical data tramission with ST fibers causes a random jitter of max 2 ns。 The same
transmission with a well made oslink?fiber causes 20 ns of random jitter。 We all know that this
difference is audible!
9 (usual high speed) logical stages in the digital signal path of a DAC cause the same difference of
random jitter。 But because of the higher frequencies in the DAC clocks the same audible difference
happens with app。 only 3 usual logical stages。 Using ultra high speed devices the random jitter
decreases to a seventh part。

Ringing Free Digital Filter
Differences between usual digital filters and the filter constellation used in the Candeias DAC:
Long FIR-digital filters (Fig。 1) have a pre and a post ringing。 The ringing energy originates from the
pulse peak。
The filter used in the Candeias DAC (Fig。 2) has a full pulse peak and no ringing。 The pulse is not
meared?in the time axis。 The result is a more detailed sound with no igital?harshness and a very
natural spatial reproduction。
Ringing Free Digital Filter
Differences between usual digital filters and the filter constellation used in the Candeias DAC:
Long FIR-digital filters (Fig。 1) have a pre and a post ringing。 The ringing energy originates from the
pulse peak。

Balanced Hybrid DAC:
Bitstream (one bit) converters have an unbeatable low level performance, no glitch energy and a
good low level linearity。
Multibit converters have a good dynamic performance and no need for higher order noise shaping。
The hybrid converters used in the Candeias DAC have a bitstream converter for lower levels combined
with a multibit converter for higher levels。 The result is a DAC with very low glitch energy, only a first
order noise shaper for the bitstream unit and a very good dynamic response。

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谢谢楼上兄弟,顶一下
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CEC设计师在上海纯乐电子(Candeias Engineering)
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自顶.........
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自降100出........
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好东西啊!
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设计师找的太太是中国人.
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此机器设计师据说住在上海浦东,呵呵
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价多少
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感兴趣!我在甘肃天水,不方便啊!
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