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北京出拜事通bryston B60(已出封帖) [复制链接]

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价格8388,可小刀
产品情况:
2001年一手购于香港,使用少,黑色、无滑痕磕碰、无包装、有保卡、无修摩、无拆机、所有细节如图,不是水货、船货、二手货,本人非商家,东西保真。
购买方式:
功放在北京,欢迎上门自取,外地烧友也可家电中介,所有费用自理。
具体指标见下面链接:
http://www.richcoln.com/bryston/b60r.html
曾获奖项:
HIFI Grand Prix Awards HIFI国际大奖赛
Product of the Year 年度产品奖
Audio Video International HIFI Grand Prix Awards 音视频国际hifi大奖赛
Product of the Year 年度产品奖
Stereophile Magazine 立体声发烧友杂志
Product of the Year 年度产品奖
Bound For Sound 极限音频
Components of Exceptional Merit 最佳性价比奖
HIFI Grand Prix Awards hifi国际大奖赛
Technology of the Year Award 年度技术创新奖
推荐玩法:
1、做高质量合并功放,虽然外面看是合并功放,但内部前后级是完全分开的并且屏蔽的很好,吸收了前后级和合并功放的优点;
2、有前级输出,可做高素质前级,搭配拜事通或其他品牌后级,拜事通后级质优价廉,但前级往往天价,这台采用BP-25的前级,指标也相同,不少人买来b60只用它的前级推4b或7b;
拜事通的副总James Tanner 也说,bp25与b60前级的音质“完全相同”:
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=9600.0
bp25前级二手价格七千元左右。
3、可做高素质耳放,近万元质量的前级直接推动的耳放,既保证了音质,又为您省下几千元购买高级耳放的费用,有兴趣的朋友可以PK一下莱曼或solo;
4、与拜事通后级搭配构成双功放bi-amp,不少人使用双功放后都有把所有CD重听一边的冲动;
5、有后级输入,前身是2B ST如果组成影院或者想换换口味,可以用当作后级推动前方左右或后方左右声道,大电流设计,阻尼系数(damping factor)>500,推动绝大多数音箱驱动力和控制力都无问题;
搭配:原厂推荐PMC+bryston,教声就是用这个,其他功放再好也无法体会到PMC的本色,不加后级的话推荐搭配db,tb,gb,fb,lb系列,网上搜一下,上述搭配都有很多玩家,以后升级AB,MB系列了,可以加个后级形成双功放;
http://www.21hifi.com/qahifi/030519/56.htm
http://www.21hifi.com/qahifi/030813/11.htm
多家音响杂志推荐B&W,正好可以解决B&W肥慢的低频,不加后级可推805,705,CDM7nt等各类产品;
玩家用b60在36平米空间推805,为获得理想声压“音量只需开到12点”,“没出现任何失真”,声音“细腻、润泽,没有任何粗硬”:
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=8766.10
21hifi上将拜事通列为802的首选:
http://www.21hifi.com/qahifi/old/e.htm
http://www.21hifi.com/qahifi/old/a.htm
外国权威评测网站评测N805时也用拜事通作为参考功放
http://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/168/index5.html
另一个非常好的选择是Thiel cs1.6,cs1.5或CS.5非常搭配的一对;
http://www.bryston.ca/reviews/b60/hifitest_b60.html
对于喜欢BBC监听声音的烧友来说,搭配雨后或斯奔达等音箱也是超正,PMC代理通常推荐瑟顿推PMC,雨后代理通常也推荐拜事通推雨后,可见这种搭配是很正宗的:
http://www.21hifi.com/qahifi/old/i.htm
搭配Kef的监听音箱可组成非常互补的一套;
搭配马田芦根或国都的静电箱非常适合,以及revel的中小型音箱
http://www.stereophile.com/amplificationreviews/1093bryston/index10.html
b100只比b60大40瓦,其他相同,stereophile用它推quad 989和revel大企鹅
http://www.stereophile.com/digitalprocessors/407bryston/index3.html
B60虽然少40瓦,但是推Revel的M20还是绰绰有余的,见下面链接:
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=speakers&m=144466
请看,功率达8欧500瓦的拜事通7b阻尼系数仅有300,而B60的阻尼系数超过500,可见在中等音量下其驱动力之强:
http://www.stereophile.com/amplificationreviews/1093bryston/index2.html
有人用它推丹拿52se或72se或contour 1.3,效果也不错
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=17712.0
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=speakers&m=91111
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=speakers&m=11525
关于其他搭配:上面的都是厂家或主流媒体试验并推荐的搭配,比较可靠而且公认合拍的搭配,并非一两个网友随意尝试的搭配,相信主流媒体或厂家的原因:1、网友相对于专业人士,听的器材少,眼光较窄;2、一两个网友往往带有更多的主观色彩或个人喜好,杂志或厂家面对受众群大,不客观就会有人骂,因此会公正一些;3、厂家推荐是最可靠的,因为其他器材推得再七彩也会多少偏离了厂家校声要达到的效果。
关于价格:
看遍二手市场,现在万元以内能买到的能称得上Hi-end级别的功方真的是凤毛麟角,这台原价卖到两万多,现在已经打了对折还多,看看能有哪台在售的高级功放能够打对折,与B60相比,同是bryston的B100每声道仅比这台功率大30-40w,其他没有任何区别,全新却卖到了三万多,B100的指标如下,请与B60比较:
http://www.stereophile.com/integratedamps/407bryston/index2.html
别忘了B100可是比Krell Kav400xi更高级的功放,B100报价2995美元,krell kav400xi报价2500美元
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/bryston_b100sst.htm
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/krell_kav400xi.htm
看这里,很多人用不了B100这么大的功率,就选择了B60
http://www.soundstage.com/feedback/resp119.htm
B60 SST or B100 SST?
January 5, 2007
To Philip Beaudette,
You did a marvelous review of the Bryston B100 SST integrated amplifier some time ago, and I was wondering if you had any opinions about the Bryston B60 SST. I am not knowledgeable about technical matters, but I'm an old man of 83 who just loves classical music. I had decided on the Bryston B100 SST in place of my NAD C370 integrated amp as a step up. It seems that the Bryston did a more credible job of throwing a wider soundstage, and from all I could get out of your review it would no doubt be an excellent amp for vocals, and I love in opera. Maybe you never did consider reviewing the B60 SST, but you might have an opinion. I suspect that it must be as good as the B100 SST except it is 60 watts instead of 100, but my Orsa speakers have a sensitivity of 88dB and I use an SVS SB12 Plus subwoofer, which ought to help out in the bass section anyway.
Do you have any comments? I like your reviews and trust your judgment.
Nolan Fremin
I suspect the B60 SST shares many sonic characteristics with the B100 SST, and although I've not listened to it, you should. The B100 SST was easily the best audio product I heard in 2006 and my only complaint with it is the fact I don't own one. I cannot overstate this: The B100 SST changed my perception of what is possible in sound reproduction. You said you like vocals. So do I, and with the B100 SST they were nothing short of glorious. In fact, B100 SST is pretty hard to fault across the frequency spectrum, provided you like hearing exactly what is on your CD and vinyl collection.
As for the B60 SST, its 60Wpc may very well be enough for your speakers. The only way I suspect the B60 SST may struggle is if you have a very big room or like to listen at extremely high levels. Our measurements of the B100 SST show that it actually puts out 140Wpc into 8 ohms and almost 200 into 4; the B60 SST is probably likewise conservatively rated. As a second consideration, you could take the money you save buying the B60 SST instead of the B100 SST and invest the savings in the onboard DAC (a $1000 option). Unless you own a very good CD player, at least consider this option. For what I consider a bargain price, the onboard DAC is a revelation in its own right....Philip Beaudette
哈哈,标称100瓦的B100实测居然8欧140瓦,标称70w的B60恐怕不止100wa,Sound Stage对同时对B100(2995美元)和krell kav400xi(2500美元)进行评测,请看评测结果。另外还有一篇音乐传真A3.2($1400)的评测
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/bryston_b100sst.htm
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/krell_kav400xi.htm
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/musicalfidelity_a32.htm
400xi二手价格17000-22000,现在不到一半的钱就可以享受同样或类似的效果,值不值自己体会。
另外还有b60和YBA DT合并机的对比,结果是b60更好,解析力和信噪比更高。








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谢谢关注!
最后编辑whl1981 最后编辑于 2008-03-21 13:46:24
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占位上图
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上个图看看!
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明盘帮顶
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每日一顶
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楼主的功课做的不错
男人要多听音乐,才不会胡思乱想。
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图呢?
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多谢楼上几位烧友帮顶,做些功课,既是原来收集的材料,也对购买功放的烧友负责,我这里还有不少国内外专业媒体或机构进行的评测,如果感兴趣,以启发上来大家探讨;照片一定在最近两天上。谢谢关注!

我在北京
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先上写媒体图片:

推Totam落地箱
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我还以为是推出什么新产品呢,莫名其妙
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的确不是新产品,但是新产品性价比高么?谢谢帮顶!
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是一手自用的吗?
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是一手自用,用得少,保护得很仔细
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拜事通产品保修20年,如果厂家对产品质量不放心不会保这么长时间。国外有讨论,加拿大的修理总厂一年也修不了几台,多数还是因为用户违规操作造成的损坏。
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顶。。。
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同城,帮顶!可惜功率小些,要是150w 8欧姆就好了!呵呵
诚求叶立老师的前级,有源、无源的都要!
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有个事情和卖家商榷商榷,06年底有位北京卖家出售B60,最终报价3800,奈何要求同城交易,很多人没有缘分.今年1月同城交易成功.当时该卖家也称为香港购得,带到北京使用.不知与楼主是否不同人,还是不同机?那个北京卖家30余岁,楼主ID中有1981字样想必为年纪.
连接:
http://hifi.gxcnc.net/hifidb/view.html?type_x=amp&sort_num=6620&pagenum=1&pernum=1&method=1&searchvalue=b60&search=1&searchprice=0&indextype=1
http://hifi.gxcnc.net/hifidb/view.html?type_x=amp&sort_num=8308&pagenum=1&pernum=1&method=1&searchvalue=b60&search=1&searchprice=0&indextype=1
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