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561#

同意LS的,我就是这样用的!!!!
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562#

德国法兰克福EL84管,有没有DX听说过?
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563#

[quote]jjr7989 在 2006-6-15 1:30:33 发表的内容
同意LS的,我就是这样用的!!!![/quote]

我也同意!
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564#

有谁试过电源净化器,对T-200MKII可有明显效果?
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565#

胆兄,您好:

小弟『乱马』来自台湾,胆机初学者,看到网络上您的小甜甜T200MKII风评甚佳,想入手一台,有一些问题想请教:

1:台湾代理商这边似乎仅有T200MKII标准版,有无T200MKII胆整流版呢?
2:想请问目前有无T200MKII胆整流+英国牛版本?可否订做此版本?
3:我有同事经常需至深圳出差,可否托友人从大陆带回?还是仍须透过台湾代理商购买?
4:整流胆=6Z4;信号胆=6N3=5670=2C51;功率胆=EL84=6BQ5 正确吗?

烦请胆兄帮忙回复!谢谢!
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566#

附EL84 的评价给大家参考:

The Complete Reviews

Sovtek EL84 - The Sovtek EL84 has been a staple for Fender, Boogie, Crate, Peavey and other manufacturers of tube amps using the ’84. This tube really is a good value. It is predictable, reliable and affordable. You can get good EL84 tone at a reasonable price. The Sovtek EL84 has been around a long time, and it has shown continuous improvement over the years. Using a matched set of properly biased tubes will yield a clear smooth sound that is fairly warm and transitions into a smooth breakup with that singing tone that EL84’s are known for. In cathode biased amps like the VOX they get a premium workout and will suffer some effects from heating and cooling. Being prone to mechanical noise in a combo amp, the EL84 is not recommended for amps with poor air circulation. The heating/cooling cycle inside an AC30 easy-bake oven seems to loosen up the mechanical structures within the tube causing them to become very noisy (mechanically) with time. This is true of any amp that uses an EL84 in a poorly ventilated chassis/cabinet arrangement, so if this is your rig, go for the JJ or Russian EL84M.

In the Fender Blues Junior the tubes can really put out respectable volume and great tone for all types of music. The highs are not harsh, the mids are warm and the bottom end is not lacking. If you want to really scream try a Pro Junior with full volume. Very crunchy yet smooth with great singing sustain. I personally like my tubes biased at 60% or 70% of static dissipation and the Sovtek EL84 performed well in this range.
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Russian EL84M - Some people will swear that the “M” stands for military but I’m not convinced. They look pretty much the same on the outside as normal Sovtek ‘84’s but there has to be something extra happening. The M’s seem less prone to mechanical noise and will do much better at surviving the VOX torture test. I loaded up the AC30 with a quad of EL84M’s and found that they could be run for a couple of hours without overheating. The Heat/Cool cycle still has some affect on life but the 84M lasted longer in this environment than the standard fare. A good choice if you have a cathode biased amp or like your tubes biased to more than 70% of idle dissipation.

You do pay a sonic and financial price for the EL84M. They are more expensive than the standard EL84 but will last longer. Sonically they are a bit of a different animal. People refer to them as sounding stiffer or more strident with more headroom and may not like the breakup characteristics when pushed. It is really a personal judgement call. If standard EL84’s have been a problem due to heat or noise and you find they don’t last as long as you would like, try the EL84M and see what you think of the tone. In my opinion they are worth the extra money for reliability and the tone is still classic EL84.
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Tesla / JJ EL84 - This tube has been a personal favorite of mine so the review is not entirely unbiased. With the JJ you seem to get a compromise between tone and reliability. Nice mids, sparkling highs and solid bottom end characterize this tube. From a construction standpoint I think JJ has hit the mark. As with any EL84 they can be prone to mechanical noise in combo amps. However, they seem to take the heat and vibration in stride without any negative tonal effects. In the AC30 the JJ tubes really delivered the VOX chime with lots of swirl and shimmery harmonic content. In the little Pro Junior just crank it up and you get a great, nasty, overdriven sound. That’s not bad, it’s good. When pushed hard into the land of the square wave they remind me a lot of a good 6V6. If you have tried the OEM Sovtek’s that shipped in your amp it’s worth your time to try a set of JJ EL84’s. Many convert and never go back. In cathode biased amps you can generally plug and play for that hot creamy “woman tone” that so many desire.
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567#

谢谢乱马兄对我们产品的关注。请教不敢当,简略答复如下:

1,T-200mk2胆整流版本现在不出了。
2,如果要订T200MKII胆整流+英国牛版本,可向台湾代理商下单订购,我们尽量帮你安排。
3,最好通过代理商购买,他可为你提供完善的售后服务的。
4,整流胆=6Z4;信号胆=6N3=5670=2C51http://www.boiaudioworks.com/index.php?cPath=92;功率胆=EL84=6BQ5 http://www.thetubestore.com/el846bq5types.html,请看参考资料

谢谢,如果还有疑问,请短信联络
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568#

[quote]yzb285 在 2006-7-1 15:36:00 发表的内容
胆兄你好,这几天我的T100有点问题了,左声道开机没有一点交流声,可大概有30秒,左声道就开始有嗡嗡的交流声,管子我左右交换了还是左声道有交流声,并且挨机子很近就能听到里面输出牛发出的交流声,请问如何解决?[/quote]

检查一下是否耳机引起的还是CD机引起的。

可把左右耳机线调转试一下(森海耳机可以换线)

然后再测cd 机输出。左右声道换线,看电流声会否改变声道。

如果上面两种方法有一种情况引起电流声换边,说明是外部原因引起的。

否则,再进一步检测,把前面两个前级换位,再试,看是主机的问题还是管子的问题。换完前面再换后面两个。再试。

如果都没有的话,不好意思,你只能发回了。
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569#

[quote]阿胆 在 2006-7-1 21:34:54 发表的内容
[quote]yzb285 在 2006-7-1 15:36:00 发表的内容
胆兄你好,这几天我的T100有点问题了,左声道开机没有一点交流声,可大概有30秒,左声道就开始有嗡嗡的交流声,管子我左右交换了还是左声道有交流声,并且挨机子很近就能听到里面输出牛发出的交流声,请问如何解决?[/quote]

检查一下是否耳机引起的还是CD机引起的。

可把左右耳机线调转试一下(森海耳机可以换线)
我把信号线都拔了了,只有电源线,开机后还是这样,我有两副耳机,一副低阻,一副高阻都试了,情况一样,直插CD机就没有,现在基本情况是开机没有,大概30秒左右砰的一声,左边就开始有了,管子左右也换过,并且换过其他的管子试过,也是这样,你能在网上给我诊断吗,我在新疆,发回去很麻烦的,上次回去一个的多月,邮费一百多,很不划算 ,谢谢

然后再测cd 机输出。左右声道换线,看电流声会否改变声道。

如果上面两种方法有一种情况引起电流声换边,说明是外部原因引起的。

否则,再进一步检测,把前面两个前级换位,再试,看是主机的问题还是管子的问题。换完前面再换后面两个。再试。

如果都没有的话,不好意思,你只能发回了。[/quote]
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570#

我把信号线都拔了了,只有电源线,开机后还是这样,我有两副耳机,一副低阻,一副高阻都试了,情况一样,直插CD机就没有,现在基本情况是开机没有,大概30秒左右砰的一声,左边就开始有了,管子左右也换过,并且换过其他的管子试过,也是这样,你能在网上给我诊断吗,我在新疆,发回去很麻烦的,上次回去一个的多月,邮费一百多,很不划算 ,谢谢
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571#

胆兄你好,这几天我的T100有点问题了,左声道开机没有一点交流声,可大概有30秒,左声道就开始有嗡嗡的交流声,管子我左右交换了还是左声道有交流声,并且挨机子很近就能听到里面输出牛发出的交流声,请问如何解决?
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572#

大家看看这个管子如何啊?
http://bbs.hifi168.com/bbs/article.asp?titleid=101453&ftdate=20060702&nTypeId=55
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573#

有没有换其他电子管试验一下,因为有些电子管本身也会引起噪音的。

建议换管先试一下。
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574#

[quote]阿胆 在 2006-7-2 22:40:37 发表的内容
有没有换其他电子管试验一下,因为有些电子管本身也会引起噪音的。

建议换管先试一下。[/quote]
我把原配的管子试过了,还是不行,只是一边有噪音,是怎么回事?
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575#

[quote]yzb285 在 2006-7-3 15:20:27 发表的内容
[quote]阿胆 在 2006-7-2 22:40:37 发表的内容
有没有换其他电子管试验一下,因为有些电子管本身也会引起噪音的。

建议换管先试一下。[/quote]
我把原配的管子试过了,还是不行,只是一边有噪音,是怎么回事?[/quote]

电话里听你说噪音有时有,有时没有,对吗?

是不是胆机放到了干扰源附近?
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576#

胆兄,有事请教,
kefmodel 103/4这对箱怎么样?小甜甜推它功率够吗?

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有效频率范围  50hz-20KHZ2.5DB+0.05-6db在英文的参考轴测量38hz  
定向特色  从单位内2db50hz-17khz产达30º参考轴方向  
最高产量  全文方案112DB峰值条件下典型听  
特色敏感程度  91DB全文为轴心的是1米的范围粉红噪音水平有限投入2.83vrms50hz-20khz(anechoic条件)  
放大器要求  50-200w到4ohms  
阻抗  4ohms  
国内数量
MF/HF  32升(兑换保证在1952年)
125升(兑换保证在76)  
净重量  18.1kg(40lbs)  
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译得有些乱,哈哈
最后编辑阿任922
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577#

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578#

[quote]阿胆 在 2006-7-5 20:29:03 发表的内容
[quote]yzb285 在 2006-7-3 15:20:27 发表的内容
[quote]阿胆 在 2006-7-2 22:40:37 发表的内容
有没有换其他电子管试验一下,因为有些电子管本身也会引起噪音的。

建议换管先试一下。[/quote]
我把原配的管子试过了,还是不行,只是一边有噪音,是怎么回事?[/quote]

电话里听你说噪音有时有,有时没有,对吗?

是不是胆机放到了干扰源附近?[/quote]
这两天又没有了,怪了,我一直在那个地方,没有换过,在听听吧,谢谢胆兄。
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579#

[quote]阿任922 在 2006-7-7 17:11:57 发表的内容
胆兄,有事请教,
kefmodel 103/4这对箱怎么样?小甜甜推它功率够吗?

。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
有效频率范围  50hz-20KHZ2.5DB+0.05-6db在英文的参考轴测量38hz  
定向特色  从单位内2db50hz-17khz产达30º参考轴方向  
最高产量  全文方案112DB峰值条件下典型听  
特色敏感程度  91DB全文为轴心的是1米的范围粉红噪音水平有限投入2.83vrms50hz-20khz(anechoic条件)  
放大器要求  50-200w到4ohms  
阻抗  4ohms  
国内数量
MF/HF  32升(兑换保证在1952年)
125升(兑换保证在76)  
净重量  18.1kg(40lbs)  
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译得有些乱,哈哈


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580#

好东西!

就是它

价格?
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