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同样是比CD规格高的SACD为何没轰动,而高规格音频文件轰动了 [复制链接]

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LP几乎就没有播放好的,CD也是很多人说没有完全播放好,音频文件很多人说完全播放不好。。。。。。
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CD播好的代价太大了,不如走捷径。SACD软硬件都没跟上,索尼想玩一家独大把自己玩进了死胡同
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原帖由 功夫茶65 于 2011-3-10 23:09:00 发表
原帖由 leslie 于 2011-3-10 22:54:00 发表
咳,CD还没完全播放好呢,都是炒作

非也
即使没有高清文件,CD和SACD这种有型载体在唱片公司眼中也已经没戏了,因为网络的发展太快了。

LINN已经全面停产CD机,代表了部分厂家的看法。
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From Acousence Records


SACD


We have not yet produced any SACDs at ACOUSENCE to date because we were initially far from convinced of the musical result when we performed our own experiments using the DSD (Direct Stream Digital) recording procedure for SACD, not to mention a strange tone colouration and unnaturalness in the timbre and tone structures of individual instruments. External productions that we have heard so far also gave no occasion for us to believe that anything else could be achieved with this medium at all.

As can be read in various professional articles written by ACOUSENCE's label chief, Ralf Koschnicke, temporal resolution plays a very significant role in music transfer, and in this respect, the DSD recording method of SACDs is open to criticism. Although the transmission range in this method is not sharply restricted by filters, as with a CD, the high frequency noise inherent in the system starts at 20 kHz already, so that the signal parts that are so essential to the musical fine structure are easily masked by signal noise, which ultimately leads to a similar result as the one effected by filtering in a CD.  

The concept behind the sound carrier itself, however, continues to be very interesting; it is simply a breeze to operate and presumably the SACD is indeed the last, honest-to-goodness sound carrier that we will get for the foreseeable future - if not for ever. New experiments have now been performed, in particular on the basis of the current theoretical considerations with regard to the relevance of the HF information for musical accuracy, that were aimed at having the signal noise, if it cannot be avoided in the first place, start as high up as possible (with respect to the starting frequency) and thereby having all parts of the useful signal above the signal noise, if possible, at least at CD-level, that is -90dB. We have succeeded in doing so by recording the sum output of the analogue mixer directly via DSD converters by the EMM Labs company in DSD format and by using the dynamic range, which is significantly higher compared to conventional PCM audio, up to the limits of the allowed SACD specifications in the process. Incidentally, it became very clear that the temporal resolution of detail suffers considerably and that the strange tone colouration mentioned above occurs already if the level is only 8db lower, for example.

Now that our first SACD has been mastered, the results are convincing all around. The chosen method in particular - recording in 4fs (24bit/192kHz) multi-track, analogue mixing, then converting it very puristically 1:1 in DSD on the SACD - appears to be the ideal way for this format. Based on the experience made, pre-production in DSD is just as inexpedient – for that, the 64fs DSD of the SACD is simply unsuitable due to the noise problem –  as the commonly used path via PCM digital audio in 48Khz or even 44.1kHz – in that case, the resolution is limited far below the potential of the SACD already.

On the two figures shown below, one can see a passage from our "DER SYMPHONISCHE RING“, digitalised both times for the purpose of graphical representation in 24/192 PCM but sent down the DSD ADDA route first. The measuring range is calibrated to 90dB=Black.

http://bbs.hifi168.com/showtopic-172246-4.aspx
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原帖由 morefeel 于 2011-3-10 21:37:00 发表
SACD的音频指标比起时下流行的MASTER级别或STUDIO级别音频文件,丝毫不逊色,为何SACD这么多年都没轰动,而现在的所谓高规格音频文件却轰动了,是不是因为音频文件的获得成本比SACD低太多了?一人购买,大家拷贝,网上也有下载或廉价出售。

这个问题值得思考。
我想,李嘉欣是漂亮,但不是我们的,所以我们很淡定;但现在门槛很低,就可以每人领一个小李嘉欣回家了,这时,小李嘉欣就轰动了。
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原帖由 ray_ji 于 2011-3-10 22:34:00 发表
主要是CD机厂家不思进取造成的。CD机厂家根本没有大力推广SACD。SACD本身也是生不逢时,当时SACD的制作设备和技术的垄断和昂贵本身就是个制约SACD发展的大瓶颈。CD的制作就简单多了,谁都能做。大家都做CD碟,大家都卖CD机,SACD当然边缘化。垄断和技术壁垒杀死了SACD,SACD是被他自己的母亲扼杀的。

音频文件是个开放性的东西,早前也不行,但这几年技术的迅速发展和高规格音频播放

说的不错SACD确实是垄断断送了自己
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大家都喜欢跑车,但都在买轿车~
闲时行摄,忙时听音
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现在的问题是跑车比轿车便宜,耗油量还更低
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