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我现在的老板就是英国人,同事中还有六七个英国人。他们今天一致说希望我们昨晚没看闭幕式重播(美国NBC没有直播,只有重播),不然他们今年的个人业绩评比和奖金都要泡汤了。我老板还说,八分钟后,真不好意思再给中国人当老板。

将心比心,看看英国人怎么说。不是我翻译的,不十分准确,但八九不离十(第二部分):
    
  Well done China on a fantastic organisation of the games which was flawless and Team GB for their medal haul. Thank you China for putting the U.S into second place.
  (注意看最后一句 --)    
  中国在赛会的组织上干的棒极了,梦幻一般的毫无瑕疵。英国选手也一样。谢谢你,中国,你们让美国掉到第二的位置去了。
    
  Well done, China! You have given the world a magnificent Olympics despite the efforts of the chattering classes in the Western media to portray you as some Stalinist state.
  中国棒极了!你给了整个世界一个精彩绝伦的奥运会,与此同时西方媒体还在喋喋不休的努力把你塑造成斯大林主义似的的国家。

  The female who hugged Yao Ming was Lauren Jackson, an Australia basketball player playing in WNBA. After Yao entered NBA, there was rumor she had a crush on Yao, but Yao turned her down. There were many gossip about them.
  So, seeing them hugging at the closing ceremony really really made me laugh, because 4 years ago, at the closing ceremony of Athens Olympic, Yao and his girlfriend 'Ye Li' came out together and that was the first time their relationship went public
(外国人也知道姚明的八卦啊)
  那个在闭幕式上拥抱姚明的女运动员是在WNBA打球的Lauren Jackson,当姚进入NBA打球时,他们曾经发生过一段绯闻,但是姚拒绝了她>_<看到他们在闭幕式上拥抱真是太好玩了,你知道四年前在雅典的闭幕式上,姚和他的女朋友叶莉第一次手牵手出现在公众面前

  What was that red bus /umbrella garbage all about? What an embarrassment for UK. It was not so much the pathetic handover performance that upset me, but the arrogant, rude and disgraceful behavior of London’s mayor Boris Johnson when attending the handover party in Bejing. Show some respect Mr BJ ! Beijing was a gracious host and deserves some praise at the handover.  
  Robert, Windsor
  ***红色巴士和垃圾雨伞到底是虾米啊??!!真是给英国丢脸啊。从来没有比这次可怜的交接仪式更雷到我的了。而那个伦敦市长Boris Johnson 在北京闭幕式的交接仪式上无知、粗鲁和毫无尊重的表现更是丢人。给北京一点尊重吧!北京是个热情和蔼的主人,在交接仪式上值得尊重!!

  Production of Global sporting superstars at the 2008 Beijing Games is correct and will remain memorable. Yet, some of us tend to place focus on matters of less importance and one wonders what is their ulterior motives. All countries with high crime rates should learn from these recently concluded games, and note that it is of high importance to develop the youths sporting potential from a tender age, so that their high energy can be burnt in the right direction and not in criminal activities.  
  Hollis N Hosein, Trinidad and Tobago -WI
  让北京举办地球上最盛大的体育盛会无疑是正确的,而且将会难以忘怀。我们中的一些人光注意那些根本不重要的细节,而且还有人觉得他们(中国)是别有用心滴。
  所有高犯罪率的国家都应该从最近结束的奥运会学点什么,而且注意一下在豆蔻年华就发掘青少年的潜力是很重要滴,让他们的精力在正确的方向燃烧,而不是在犯罪行为上发光!

  8 minutes of total rubbish , What the hell are we playing at , That whole bus thing and crazy people was a total sham , And as for the indian girl representing the children of England well I have seen it all now . What a mess , 2012 wont be a patch on this olympics.  
  sam, london
  8分钟是彻头彻尾的垃圾,我们***到底在表演什么啊?乱七八糟的巴士和疯子一样的表演者简直丢脸丢大发鸟。而对于那个代表英国的印度女孩,简直看不下去了。什么破玩意儿嘛。2012年伦敦根本不配举办奥运会!

  Well done China, well presented games, Boris came across well, showed we have a good mayor, who knows what London has to do to ensure we put on a good show, advice from those of us who are still British is dump most of the things in the 8 minutes as they are not in tune with London/British values or what people know us for, increase the use of the union flag as the useless logo looks half useful in that guise! Boris has clearly been saddled with Livingston’s leftie leftovers, dump them be bold!  
  [GlobalTemplar], Kingston upon Thames, United Kingdom
  中国,干得不错!是一场精心准备的奥运会,Boris的出现也还好,显示出我们有多么优秀的一个市长啊,他知道伦敦应该做什么来显示我们可以举办好奥与会,我们这些人的大多数根本不明白伦敦/英国价值的人的建议都在8分钟里面出现鸟,或者说让世人对我们滴像一个没用的logo一样的联邦国旗又多了点印象。
  Boris清楚滴展示了一个左派份子的垃圾形象,我们打包把他倒掉吧!!
  (这段翻译得不好,这人反讽能力太强了,?澹?

  It has been a long time that I felt embarrassed for 8 long minutes. I really hope the organizers get there act together for the 2012 Olympics in London, because whether we like it or not the Chinese did a wonderful job from beginning to end. Whether true or false, let us hope the Red Arrows will do a fly past at the opening ceremony in London because that will be something worth watching, unless of course Boris has something up his sleeve to surprise us all.  
  Rose, Bicester
  很长一段时间内,我都为我们的8分钟感到丢脸,我真心希望那些组织者去为了我们的2012年伦敦奥运会,一起去那里(北京)看看,因为不管我们喜欢与否,中国人从头到尾都做得非常棒。无论正确与否,让我们希望在伦敦开幕式前the Red Arrows(英国红箭飞行表演队,在BBC开幕式的评论上就有英国人提到我们不会又上红箭吧,看来英国果然只有红箭啊-_-)能够腾飞起来,只有那样,说不定才有点看头,除非Boris又把他的手揣在兜里,来给我们所有人一个惊喜!

  In the London segment in the final countdown at the end of the Bejing olypics was total rubbish. If that is the best we can do to portray ourselves, then what will the rest of the world think. As a once great country we are now behind the third world, Shame  
  Thomas Smith, Newcastle upon Tyne
  伦敦在北京奥运会上最后的表现简直是垃圾。如果那些就是我们最好的东西,世界上其他人会怎么看??一个曾经伟大的国家,如今却还不如第三世界,丢脸!!!

  There is one word for the "London 2012" presentation at the Beijing Olympic closing ceremony...naff !
  This includes Boris Johnson who looked as though he is in need of a decent tailor. It would help if he buttoned up his jacket. He looked like a 4th form schoolboy.
  The Chinese show was magnificent. Our athletes were brilliant.  
  Delewar, Colchester
  只能用一个词来形容代表“伦敦2012”在北京奥运会闭幕式上的表现---白开水!
  这其中包括咱们的市长大人Boris Johnson ,他看起来需要一个体面的形象顾问,如果他把扣子扣上,看起来也不会那么?澹?他看起来像一个4年级的中学生!
  中国的闭幕式非常恢宏壮观,我们的运动员们也优秀。

  The closing ceremony was just fine apart from the British bit which was simply atrocious!
  Why did we have some prehistoric rock guitarist and a talent show winner miming to some abysmal sound track? What has David Beckham got to do with the Olympics? Hardly portrays a young, vibrant and exciting vision of what the 2012 games might offer.
  If this is an example of how good London's Olympics is going to be, then perhaps Boris should ask the Chinese to keep the Olympic flame in Beijing.  
  [BirdGirlsCanFly]
  除去英国糟糕透顶的表演部分,闭幕式还是不错滴。
  为什么我们要找一些过气的摇滚吉他手和糟透的选秀歌手来刺激我们??贝克汉姆掺和在奥运会中做什么??我们几乎不能展现2012年伦敦可能提供的一个年轻、有活力和令人兴奋的印象。
  如果这是伦敦奥运会将会展现出来的样子,也许Boris先生应该叫中国人把奥运会旗留在北京!

  The Beijing to London handover shows how ill equipped we are to deal with an event of this scale.
  Compared to spectacular displays by the Chinese, our offering is a pathetic embarrassment.
  The 2012 Party belongs on Blue Peter and was on par with an end of term school show: Scouting for Girls destroying London’s Calling; Morrisons’ theme tune by Last Choir Standing and The Feeling playing with no feeling at all.
  Is this all Britain has to offer?  
  Helen, Liverpool
  北京-伦敦交接仪式显示出我们对应对这种盛大场合是多么的?灏 ?
  相比中国华丽恢宏的闭幕式,我们的表演简直是去丢脸滴!
  2012年的开幕式应该是以Blue Peter 为主吧,而闭幕式会以中学毕业晚会的形式来搞:调戏女孩子的声音毁坏伦敦的通讯;合唱团唱Morrisons的诗歌腔调;唯一的感觉就是没有感觉。
  这就是英国能够提供的????

  I see censorship and control by the state-owned media continues.
  Where is the report on the BBC website of the celebrations in the Olympic borough of Waltham Forest being canceled because of yet another knife murder, this time yards away from where the choir was supposed to sing to the cheering happy crowds in Walthamstow, who instead were replaced by the police investigating a crime scene.
  You couldn’t make it up. You really are a Ministry of Truth.    
  humble scholar, London, United Kingdom
  我发现国有媒体的管制和审查制度还在继续啊。
  BBC上关于Waltham Forest区庆祝奥运的评论都到哪里去了?因为另外一个持刀杀人犯就被河蟹鸟??那里的合唱团这段时间都应该在庆祝Walthamstow狂欢的人群吧?那可是被警察调查出来的犯罪情景啊。
  你们没必要编造,你们真的是真相的终结者!
  (民主自由的英国BBC的留言其实也是要审核的,国内的民猪精蝇们震惊、失望鸟)

  The Chinese showed their rich heritage and history in a dignified and beautiful performance.
  Us? We showed just what a farce 2012 will be.
  Our country's heritage (prior to the last government!) is one to be proud of. We have customs and a richer history than many others. So why are we showing a logo from the 70's (I'm a designer, it's shocking!) and a display of ageing rock, one-hit wonders, chavs and only modern London?
  I'm proud to be English, but in 2012? I may be moving...  
  Angela, Chesterfield
  中国人以一种高贵和美仑美焕的演出,展现了他们最辉煌的历史和灿烂的文化.
  我们呢??我们却只显示了2012年一场闹剧.
  我们国家的历史文化值得我们每个人骄傲,我们有着比世界上其他任何国家都丰富的习俗和历史.那我们为什么却要拿出一个70年代的logo(我是个设计师,太雷人了!)和过时的摇滚blabla的东西,以及现代的伦敦来秀??
  作为英国人我很骄傲,但是对于2012??我可能会搬走.....

  Lets hope the UK can match the chinese games with same character and skill! Well its all up to Boris now and his management capabillities!! We know our athletes are capable!! Mind you he has on hell of a job to beat!!  
  [newtried], maidenhead, United Kingdom
  让我们期待国家能够整出和中国的表演和技术相媲美的奥运会吧.当然现在这都要看Boris的管理能力了!!我们都知道我们的运动员都有这个能力!!希望他能小宇宙大爆发!

  Why couldn't the BBC TV commentators just shut up when there is music on the screen? They did the same stupid thing at the opening and once again today. The TV is there for us to WATCH and when the music is on why give commentary? Also so much about history and the meaning of this and the meaning of that and the symbolism of this and that. For Heavans sake WHY did they not just shut up and let us listen to the music, to the drums and all that was happening. This was a disastrous coverage.  
  Hercules, London
  BBC电视播音员能不能在音乐响起的时候闭上他的乌鸦嘴??他们今天又和开幕式的时候一样犯了同样的错误.音乐响器的时候,电视是给我们"看"的,为什么在那里JJWW说个不停??
  太多太多关于历史的评论了,一会儿这个是什么,一会儿那个是什么,这个代表什么,那个象征什么.有完没完!!
  上帝啊,为什么他们不闭上臭嘴让我们好好聆听这音乐,鼓声以及所有的一切?这场报道真TMD恶心

  606: "A beautifully organised Games all around, then Boris appears, jacket undone, looking like a drunk who gatecrashed the party, what an embarrassment."
  一场有条不紊的庆祝仪式华美进行中,这时boris(伦敦市长)像个醉汉一样敞着领子突然闯了进来,真他妈令人尴尬。
  
  AND HERE'S BECKS! AND A WOMAN IN A RUNNING OUTFIT PLAYING A VIOLIN! Becks boots a ball into the crowd... just the one, and it doesn't quite make the crowd... a couple of officials have a bit of a scrabble over it... and that's that, London's eight minutes are up... what to make of that?
  小贝出来了!还有在跑动人群中拉小提琴的女人。小贝将一个足球踢向人群。。。只有一个,没有引起太大的骚动。。。两个工作人员乱扒了一通。。。就这些,伦敦八分钟结束了。。。谁明白这是想表达什么意思吗?
最后编辑qsyd 最后编辑于 2008-08-26 12:46:04
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很正常,我看了也没撒特别的感觉,谈不上好坏...一切都在意料之中,别忘记他们的袄云会徽被群众批斗的好叫比我们中国厉害了
还有一点中国和英国老百姓一样--外来的和尚和念经,外国的花朵更鲜艳
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BTW:那个2012奥运会LOGO是什么意思啊?
壮士豪情怀天下
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晚上欢送一个英国佬到公司的印度分部去作个头目,他太太是法国人。她说“八分钟”前她还因为法国的糟糕表现抬不起头,但现在终于可以挺起腰杆、从容踏上印度的国土了。

英国人对于英国运动员的表现非常自豪,是他们自二十年代以来成绩最好的一次。这帮英国人全是名校的,牛津、剑桥、伦敦商学院,还有一个是美国哥伦比亚大学的。去年《旅游》杂志评英国人是最差游客(中国人排名比英国人好不少呢),说他们象一群大嗓门的流氓,到处叽叽喳喳,满嘴粗话,一点没错。奥运会上往中国女志愿者身上泼水的无礼行为绝非个别现象。我老板经常当着众人的面说,I need to go bullshit!(我得去拉一大泡屎)。不过这帮英国佬一天到晚挺好玩儿的。
最后编辑qsyd 最后编辑于 2008-08-26 13:03:22
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反正本来看着想睡觉,闭幕式实在没开幕式搞得有节奏,有主题.是老谋子搞的?
本来荤荤欲睡,突然被这个'8分钟'吵醒,靠,什么玩意,市井文化也好意思上台面...
如果懂英文的话,我肯定把本来准备好喷老谋子的全部拿来喷给伦敦市市长,哈哈.
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原帖由 Adams 于 2008-8-26 12:32:00 发表
原帖由 vifone 于 2008-8-26 11:07:00 发表
原帖由 皇家芭蕾 于 2008-8-26 11:06:00 发表
把英国市民的普通生活缩影搬到闭幕式上,是否太简单马虎应付了草了?


同感!那不是真正的英国。太小家子气了。


你知道什么是真正的英国?

我感觉很好,很



我不知道你为什么要那样反问,听了很不舒服。好好讨论不好吗?
我很难几句话和你解释什么是真正的英国,这个需要感受!也许你的感受比我正确!
但是,世界上大多数城市都有巴士站,都下雨,都有不同肤色的人,而且也不缺摇滚和足球。这么重要的舞台,只是把一些表面化的生活化的东西呈现出来太可惜了。
没错,英国是在变化,变得很生活化,伦敦也是越来越繁忙,但是英国人对于传统的东西还是非常看重的。目前,英国在我的心目中是开放而又保守的国家,很矛盾的感觉。
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赞一下闭幕式上的英国8分钟
雅典闭幕上的中国8分钟,我们就可以预想到老谋子08年想要的演绎。而昨晚英国8分钟我们也可以预想伦敦4年后的风采。那辆伦敦-北京-伦敦的巴士很生活化,而当这辆变形解体过后所翻出的绿色也很帅。要说汽车的解体变形不是什么绝棒的创意,但是所解构出来的自然植物还是相当有深度的。围绕巴士边上的,是骑自行车的人、拿报纸的人、撑雨伞的人,和-------,这些生活化的场景在舞蹈的编排下很有戏剧性,美女歌手、老摇滚乐手和最后小贝的弧线,结束了这8分钟。

每一个场景都有灵魂,北京开幕式展现的是超强的视觉、超炫的色彩和超大的场面,这是一场伟大文化的展示。我们之所以感到震撼、感到冲击,是因为面对这种场面我们虽然很骄傲,却更多的是仰视。但是这英国8分钟,我们看到的是活生生的生活、是自然清新,面对这种场面我们更多的是一种参与的冲动。所以,英国的那位导演说他们要以另一种方法,而不是与北京开幕式的那种方法,来展现,我觉得他做到了。

现在,与期盼北京奥运会一样,伦敦奥运会一样让人期待。
看了论坛其它人的贴子才发现很多人没看懂这"伦敦8分种",这辆BUS可真是不普通,当它解体变形后是一列火车头,那是瓦特发明的蒸气机---整个工业革命的标致啊!
寓意深刻,彰显历史.
创意叫绝!
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真的,也很不简单!
与开幕式中国五千年写在画轴(纸)上的历史,与祥云,画轴火炬台,点火仪式等有异曲同工之妙.
为伟大的创意叫好!!!
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qsyd 带来英国人自己的评价和俺得到的零星反应几乎差不多,英国佬独特的“刻薄艺术”永远令在下叹为观止

关于Boris醉汉般的邋遢形象的意见看来普遍强烈,俺只好安慰他们说“Boris Johnson 先生只是想仿效休.格兰特在<Actually Love>中的亲和做派而已......俺们中国人不会太挑剔的。”
~ so u never know what u're missin’  ~
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如果这8分钟是国产的,就不叫伟大创意了吧,结果可能是“老谋子,哪里跑!”——拳如雨点。
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