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qihuang - 2005/12/19 12:21:00
ericfdai兄你好!最近好象电子管涨价的厉害。下月初准备到广州去一趟,有那些信誉好,管子质量好的商价推荐?不方便明说的话请短信。谢谢了!
kick - 2005/12/18 13:56:00
这对ECC33为什么要148.6美金起拍呢?且目前出价为260美金,截止拍卖尚有6天,不知道最后要多少成交。
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-Mullard-ECC33-NOS-NIB-6SN7-cryogenically-treated_W0QQitemZ6589079787QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

CV569下被涂掉的部分应该是KB,我刮开字就全掉了。

一只盒子上写Ia2.6,2.6上面有2.5,另外一只盒子上写Ia2.6,2.6上面有2.6,算配对吧?

盒子上的字为:

VALVE ELECTRONIC
   CV569

A.M. REF. NO.
10 CV 569
       A
具体含义是?
kick - 2005/12/18 18:43:00
明白,谢谢!
66316661 - 2005/12/18 19:55:00
[upload=jpg]Upload/2005121819541927110.jpg[/upload][upload=jpg]Upload/2005121819542871330.jpg[/upload][upload=jpg]Upload/2005121819543934935.jpg[/upload]金脚.D环.
ericfdai - 2005/12/19 9:56:00
(贡献珍贵资料,各位速速收藏!)
关于如何鉴别CV编号的管子,各位请看:
_______________________________________
CV marked valves

CV stands for Common Valve. Valves used by the British Services were marked with CV numbers. In addition a number of valves used by the GPO were CV types. CV numbers have been around since the early 1940's - CV1 was listed in the "Service List of Valves for Special Purposes" published by the Inter-Service Technical Valve Committee in 1941, though at that time their own Service List of Preferred Valves does not appear to have had any CV valves in. Certainly they were in use in 1942 as the specification sheet for the CV44 is dated 9/4/42, and also the type approval date of CV8 is given as 1942.

There is no defined sequence of numbers, though groupings are apparent, e.g. CV4xxx are 'reliable' types. In fact some early valves were given 'later' numbers.

See also: The online CV lookup database and the online 1963 CV Register

CV codes

The codes marked on a valve are made up as follows:

(a) The CV number
(b) The broad arrow (Government mark)
(c) The date code
(d) The letter K for a valve made to specification K1001 or K1006
or
J for a valve made to the JAN or MIL specification  
(e) The qualification approval letter as follows:
B when approval has been given by a UK authority
U when approval has been given by or on behalf of both UK and US authorities
D when approval has been given by the Australian Services

Note: when approval has been given for the use of a valve in MDAP equipment by the Director of Electronics Research and Development (Air) but that valve has not received qualification approval the letter X is used.

(f) Factory identification code  
(g) Any other marking required by the test specification.  

Items (d), (e) and (f) are arranged in that order with an oblique stroke between (e) and (f).

When a serial number is required it is sometimes put on an internal component provided it is clearly visible.

When the test specification requires an EIA or RETMA or other US type designation and a mineral filled base is used the letter Y is appended to the name to indicate this, e.g. CV509 - 6V6GY

Date codes

The date code is made up in one of two ways. A 4 digit code is made up of the last two digits of the year followed by the number of the week in the year starting at 01. Note that week 1 is defined as the week in which January 1st falls on or between Sunday and Friday. If it falls on a Saturday, week 1 starts on the 2nd January. Thus 6407 means the 7th week of 1964.

Alternatively two letters were used. This was allowed up to January 1st 1965. In this scheme the first letter A = 1945 and so on, and the second letter A=January and so on. Letters I and O were not used. Thus AA = January 1945, NF = June 1957.

If it was not possible to put all the above information on a valve, for example due to size, permission could be granted for the omission of some. The order of preferred retention is:

1) CV number
2) Factory code
3) Date code
4) Broad arrow
5) Specification and qualification letters

Where valves with allocated CV numbers are accepted to a commercial specification in the absence of a CV test specification these may only carry the CV number and the broad arrow.

If a valve which has not met some particular physical or electrical requirement is still accepted the letters to the left of the oblique stroke should be replaced or cancelled by a yellow splash.

If a valve is required before qualification approval has been given or has been withdrawn the letters to the left of the oblique stroke should be omitted or cancelled with a black, dark or neutral splash or stroke.



Warning marking for radioactive valves

All British manufactured radioactive valves should carry the word CAUTION and the standard three-bladed radioactive symbol with the chemical symbol(s) for the radioactive element(s) indicated, for example Co 60 for Cobalt 60.

The previous marking was an orange band 1/4" wide.

See also Radioactive valves

Reference:

The above information is detailled in Joint Service Specification K1001 section 4.
See sheets K1001-4-1, K1001-4-2, K1001-4-3 and K1001-4-4

Manufacturer's factory identification codes

These show where the pumping process was completed.

Code Manufacturer
A Mullard, Blackburn, prior to Jan 1951
A Thorn, Tottenham, prior to April 1964  
AB Sylvania-Thorn, Enfield
AC Thorn-AEI, Footscray
AD Thorn-AEI (Brimar), Rochester
B Edison Swan, Baldock, prior to Sept 1945
BA AEI, Woolwich
BC Joseph Lucas, Birmingham
C Edison Swan, Ponders End, prior to Sept 1951
CC Cathodeon, Cambridge
CE 20th Century Electronics, prior to March 1957
CF 20th Century Electronics, New Addington
CN Pye Industrial Electronics
CO Newmarket transistors, Newmarket
CS Cathodeon, Southend
D Mullard Radio Valve Co., Mitcham
DA Mullard Radio Valve Co., Blackburn
DB Mullard Radio Valve Co., Salford
DC Mullard Radio Valve Co., Whyteleafe
DE Mullard Radio Valve Co., Fleetwood
DF Mullard Radio Valve Co., Waddon
DG Associated Semiconductor Manufacturers, Southampton
DH Societe Anonyme Philips, Brive, France
E Thorn-AEI, Brimsdown
EA Edison Swan, Ponders End
EB Edison Swan, Gateshead
EC Edison Swan, Tottenham
EN Thorn-AEI, Sunderland
F STC, Paignton
FB STC, Footscray
FC STC, Lorenz,. Esslingen, Germany
FD STC, Rochester
FDA Alexandria, NSW, Australia
FE STC, Oldway (Additional to Paignton factory 'F')
FF STC, Harlow
G Ericsson, Beeston
GA (Ericsson), AB Svenska Elektronror, Stockholm, Sweden
H Hivac, Harrow
HC Hivac, Chesham
HR Hivac, Ruislip
J STC, Crewkerne, prior to Jan 1946
J Radar Electronic Equipment
JA SGS Fairchild, Ruislip
JB SGS Fairchild, Agrate, Milan, Italy
JD Elliott Bros. (London) Ltd, Borehamwood
JE Elliott-Litton, Borehamwood
JK La Radio Technique, Suresne, Paris, France
JN International Rectifier Co., (GB) Ltd, Oxted
JQ Associated transistors, Ruislip
JT Microwave Associates Ltd, Luton
K Electronic Tubes, High Wycombe
L CSF, Levallois-Perret (Seine), Paris, France
L MOV prior to Oct 1951
LB CSF, St. Egreve, Grenoble, Isere, France
M Gramophone Co., Hayes
MA EMI research labs, Hayes
MB EMI research labs, Ruislip
ME EMI, Hayes
MR EMI (Valve Division), Ruislip
MT EMI, Treorchy
N Nore Electric, Southend
N STC, Footscray, prior to August 1951
NP Texas Instruments, Dallas Road, Bedford
NQ Texas Instuments, Bedford
NR Texas Instruments, Nice, France
O Rank Cintel, Lower Sydenham
OR Rank Cintel, Rotunda
OS Rank Cintel, Sidcup
P Philips, Eindhoven, Holland
P GEC, Shaw, prior to August 1948
PA Philips Teleindustri, Stockholm, Sweden
PDA Philips, Hendon, Australia
Q English Electric Valve Co., Chelmsford
QB Marconi Wireless Telegraphy Co., Great Baddow
QC Marconi Wireless Telegraphy Co., Chelmsford
QD English Electric Valve Co., Stafford
QE English Electric Valve Co., Kidsgrove
QF English Electric Valve Co., Nelson Research Labs, Hixon
R Ferranti, Moston
R Ferranti, Gem Mill, prior to July 1947
RA Ferranti, Edinburgh
RB Ferranti, Dundee
RC Ferranti, Chadderton, Oldham
S AEI, Rugby
SA AEI, Lutterworth
SB AEI, Lincoln
SC CFTH, Usine de Joinville, Seine, france
SD SESCO, Rue de L'Amiral, Mouchez, Paris, France
SDA Amalgamated Wireless, Australia
SF CFTH, Rue Mario-Nikis, Paris, France
SL AEI, Leicester
SP AEI, Peterborough
T British Tungsram, Tottenham
U MOV, Bulmer, prior to Oct 1945
U Nucleonic and Radiological, Stratford
V Cossor, Highbury, prior to Sept 1945
V Gilbert Photoelectrics
VA Westinghouse, Chippenham
VF MCP Electronics, Alperton
VL Hughes Internations (UK) Ltd., Glenrothes
VR Brucsh Crystal Co., Hythe
W GEC, Hirst Labs, Wembley
ASM Ltd  
WB GEC, Coventry
WD Claude General Neon Lights, Wembley
WE ASM Ltd, Hazel Grove
WF ASM Ltd, Broadstone
X MOV, Springvale, prior to Oct 1951
Y MOV, Moray, prior to April 1945
YA Leigh Electronics, Havant
YC Semiconductors Ltd., Cheney Manor, Swindon
YD Semiconductors Ltd., Towcester
Z MO Valve Company, Hammersmith
ZA MOV, Gateshead, prior to March 1957
ZB MOV, Perivale
ZC MOV, Springvale, prior to August 1957
ZD MOV, Dover, prior to Dec 1956
ZE Osram GEC Lamp Works, MXT Dept, prior to March 1957

References:

The above data can be found in:

Joint Service Specification K1001 (cover)


This file was last modified 11:07:04, Thursday September 22, 2005
cz660320 - 2005/12/19 11:03:00
请那位老大推荐一下12bh7有甚么好管子,EI的如何,谢谢。
qihuang - 2005/12/19 11:20:00
qihuang 在 2005-12-18 21:45:38 发表的内容
ericfdai 在 2005-12-16 10:25:21 发表的内容
qihuang 在 2005-12-16 0:19:03 发表的内容
[quote]qihuang 在 2005-12-16 0:16:28 发表的内容
[quote]fever 在 2005-12-16 0:02:38 发表的内容
[quote]qihuang 在 2005-12-15 23:15:48 发表的内容
7308 PQ开价380一对。Fever兄请指点。谢谢![quote]


qihuang  兄,P Q  7308  如是  AMPEREX 『三雲母』 『圓環』 而且瓶底玻璃清晰通透,不論是美國或荷蘭產品,叫價 380  元一對也算合理,如能上幾張圖片看看則更佳。



是AMPEREX 的“二雲母”“圓環”“PQ两星”
[upload=jpg]Upload/200512160172981070.jpg[/upload]

谢谢了!请看7308的图。只有回复才能上图吗?


看样子是美国产的,大概在61-63年。也是不错的好管。
若能找到荷兰的,就更好了。[/quote]


7308到家了。委托JS测试配对,两管数值一样。
数值如下:
Ia:  13.5   13.5
S:  10.5   10.5
成色应该有8成。
管子上靠顶部有很浅的暗码印:338 (竖排暗字,从上往下读),
瓶身中部有:65  08 (横排白字)
靠管脚有:VR5  (横排金色字,第一排)
          米31I(横排金色字,第二排)。

换下斯巴克17A的EH-6922,初步听了几盘CD,感觉低频更结实些,层次更清楚clear。就象是EH-6922有一层薄纱,7308把这层薄纱去掉了一样。

[/quote]

潜水数十日,基本弄清了Philips / Amperex / Mullard / Valvo 的codes
上面的VR5 :VR代表E188CC或7308,5 估计是版本号(Revision number or change codes);米3I:米代表Amperex Electronic Crop. New York.,3代表1963年,I代表9月。
qihuang - 2005/12/19 12:15:00
qihuang 在 2005-12-19 12:13:22 发表的内容
7308到家了。委托JS测试配对,两管数值一样。
数值如下:
Ia: 13.5 13.5
S: 10.5 10.5
成色应该有8成。
管子上靠顶部有很浅的暗码印:338 (竖排暗字,从上往下读),
瓶身中部有:65 08 (横排白字)
靠管脚有:VR5 (横排金色字,第一排)
米31I(横排金色字,第二排)。

换下斯巴克17A的EH-6922,初步听了几盘CD,感觉低频更结实些,层次更清楚clear。就象是EH-6922有一层薄纱,7308把这层薄纱去掉了一样。

潜水数十日,基本弄清了Philips / Amperex / Mullard / Valvo 的codes
上面的VR5 :VR代表E188CC或7308,5 估计是版本号(Revision number or change codes);米3I:米代表Amperex Electronic Crop. New York.,3代表1963年,I代表9月。
[upload=jpg]Upload/2005121912145951592.jpg[/upload][upload=jpg]Upload/2005121912151866187.jpg[/upload]
ericfdai - 2005/12/19 15:50:00
qihuang 在 2005-12-19 12:21:31 发表的内容
ericfdai兄你好!最近好象电子管涨价的厉害。下月初准备到广州去一趟,有那些信誉好,管子质量好的商价推荐?不方便明说的话请短信。谢谢了!



你那对7308有95成新,声音不错.好管!有机会试试荷兰的7308,还会有惊喜的.
去广州的话,去拜访一下新淘街电子城的志平音响吧.信誉不错,好管多多.价格吗,就要看你的本事了.
qihuang - 2005/12/19 12:13:00
7308到家了。委托JS测试配对,两管数值一样。
数值如下:
Ia: 13.5 13.5
S: 10.5 10.5
成色应该有8成。
管子上靠顶部有很浅的暗码印:338 (竖排暗字,从上往下读),
瓶身中部有:65 08 (横排白字)
靠管脚有:VR5 (横排金色字,第一排)
米31I(横排金色字,第二排)。

换下斯巴克17A的EH-6922,初步听了几盘CD,感觉低频更结实些,层次更清楚clear。就象是EH-6922有一层薄纱,7308把这层薄纱去掉了一样。

潜水数十日,基本弄清了Philips / Amperex / Mullard / Valvo 的codes
上面的VR5 :VR代表E188CC或7308,5 估计是版本号(Revision number or change codes);米3I:米代表Amperex Electronic Crop. New York.,3代表1963年,I代表9月。
qihuang - 2005/12/19 14:00:00
fever兄请看7308的成色如何?谢谢了。
fever - 2005/12/19 23:07:00
qihuang 在 2005-12-19 14:00:28 发表的内容
fever兄请看7308的成色如何?谢谢了。



qihuang 兄,恭喜你,這兩枝美國 『白字』 『P Q』 『三雲母』 『大圓環』 AMPEREX 7308  的成色甚佳,有八成半以上,應有數千小時的壽命,請安心享受美妙的音樂吧。
dirtyman369 - 2005/12/21 18:33:00
dirtyman369 在 2005-11-29 16:51:09 发表的内容
請教ERIC, FEVER老师或各位大大這支12AX7值$700嗎? 謝謝!

http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/422bccf8z61bea10b/c193/__sr_/88c4scd.jpg?phoECjDBuRJ8MsUT

http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/422bccf8z61bea10b/c193/__sr_/b34dscd.jpg?phoECjDBtERQdDVp

http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/422bccf8z61bea10b/c193/__sr_/7066scd.jpg?phoECjDBD4sEnHHZ

http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/422bccf8z61bea10b/c193/__sr_/937cscd.jpg?phoECjDB8O.W_KsU
dirtyman369 - 2005/12/21 18:45:00
dirtyman369 在 2005-12-21 18:37:57 发表的内容
請幫忙........











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dirtyman369 - 2005/12/21 18:37:00
請幫忙........











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lr - 2005/12/23 21:41:00
ericfdai 在 2005-12-12 10:14:15 发表的内容
lr 在 2005-12-9 21:33:46 发表的内容
[upload=jpg]Upload/200512921313332301.jpg[/upload]
ericfdai大哥:上图管子:(暗码:B7J或B6G )和下面管子:右边一对,暗码(K61B5I,K61B6A),哪对好?谢谢!
http://www.diybuy.net/add.php?forum=50&titid=871



K61B5I,K61B6A这对好.参数很高,而且配对误差在0.1%以内,千载难逢啊!


已买下“千载难逢”,好管,谢谢!
请教ericfdai大哥:56年以前的都不是半边水银的,对吗?
cz660320 - 2005/12/23 10:21:00
各位老大,12bh7有甚么好管子,麻烦推荐一下,EI的如何,谢谢
东边有耳 - 2005/12/25 22:30:00
化了十天时间仔细研读此贴,把拉下的功课全部补上,受益多多。在此,感谢fever老师及ercifdai等兄的指点。此贴不但使我大开眼界,了解了许多名胆,更学到了胆管新旧的识别,方环,D环,大小圆环,实心环,蝶环,黑屏,灰屏,单支架,双支架及二云母三云母的区分。

各品牌的音色特点,相互间的搭配要领,哪些品牌应考虑购买,哪些品牌则不予考虑,使我走了捷径,少付了学费。化这些时间仔细研读,值!!!
    再一次谢谢!!!
啊飞 - 2005/12/27 0:26:00
学了很多东东
li7812 - 2005/12/27 0:20:00
ericfdai 在 2004-6-28 9:49:16 发表的内容
换胆初感记收藏版已经上载到网上供大家下载:
下载网址:
http://free5.hostrocket.com/~ericfda/
(测试过,用网络蚂蚁下载要3-4分钟)
1. 下载后运行’hdcgj.exe’
2. 指定安装目录,系统将会安装到您指定的硬盘目录。
3. 输入安装密码(发168短信给我或Fever兄所取)
设置密码的目的只是希望知道有谁收藏了这份换胆初感记。
4. 系统会将所有内容自动安装的您指定的目录(需1分钟左右)。
5. 打开文件夹到您指定的安装目录,打开’换胆初感记.html’,开始浏览。
6. 如需卸载,只要删除安装目录及以下所有内容即可


ercifdai兄!我已下载了,可否给我密码,谢谢!
东边有耳 - 2005/12/27 20:11:00
我怎麽没法下载?郁闷!
东边有耳 - 2005/12/27 20:17:00
边看边下载在文件夹的资料都无法打开!
cdwu - 2005/12/28 15:37:00
一次搞定密码,猜的
jdavidwong - 2005/12/29 8:33:00
请教各位前辈,mazda6818 是12AT7的代换管吗?相比GEC2900如何?谢谢!
jdavidwong - 2005/12/29 10:18:00
哟,Q版,巧啊。怎么,想换对喇叭试试?顺便,我上面的问题你知道吗?ding
qiyunsheng - 2005/12/29 10:45:00
好像不是呀。
12AT7,CV4024,CV455,ECC81,ECC801S才是代换的吧
qiyunsheng - 2005/12/29 14:28:00
全部同一批次,原盒包装。
暗吗均为:k62,(三角)7H
qiyunsheng - 2005/12/29 9:07:00
各位DX,帮我看看一对管子。
NOS管,ia 10.0 s1 2.08 s2 2.10  ia10.2  s1  2.08   s2 2.10

[upload=jpg]Upload/2005122997058700.jpg[/upload][upload=jpg]Upload/20051229971540639.jpg[/upload]
qiyunsheng - 2005/12/29 15:49:00
这一对应该是57年产荷兰、amperex原厂原盒的12U7

不知道在整个amperex中,它是一个什么位置?

美国产和荷兰产有什么不同?
jdavidwong - 2005/12/29 18:47:00
jdavidwong 在 2005-12-29 18:10:24 发表的内容
再顶!请教各位前辈,mazda6818 是12AT7的代换管吗?相比GEC2900如何?谢谢!

请eric博士指点,谢谢
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